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An 8-panel Phoebe Teaching Joey meme.

The first panel is Phoebe from Friends saying “Russia”.

The second panel is Joey from the same show replying with “Russia”.

The third panel is Phoebe saying “has invaded”.

The fourth panel is Joey repeating back “has invaded”.

The fifth panel is Phoebe saying “Ukraine”.

The sixth panel is Joey repeating back “Ukraine”.

The seventh panel is Phoebe saying the completed phrase “Russia has invaded Ukraine”.

The final panel shows Joey proudly proclaiming “NATO just started a proxy war”.

    • Astroturfed@lemmy.world
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      3 years ago

      They’re nazis because the NATO helped them not be colonized and drained of resources by Russia. Not wanting to have your hospitals and schools bombed, makes you a nazi obviously.

      • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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        3 years ago

        I think the Russian conception of Nazi is literally someone who threatens Russia. The rest of the world focuses on the totalitarian ideologies and anti semitism, Russia largely focuses on just that they were against Russia.

        • DulyNoted@lemmy.world
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          3 years ago

          I think the Russian conception of Nazi is literally someone who threatens Russia.

          Yep. Just like the US definition of socialist/communist/terrorist

  • Badass_panda@lemmy.world
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    3 years ago

    This is a NATO proxy war in that NATO, an organization created to provide European countries protection from Russia’s territorial ambitions, is providing assistance to a European country to help protect them from Russia’s territorial ambitions.

    I can’t get over the circular logic of thinking Russia is justified in its invasion of another country by the fact that the other country wanted to be better prepared to defend against Russia invading it.

    “I need to beat up my neighbor for trying to take a self defense class, because if he takes the class I won’t be able to beat him up.”

    Dude, it only comes up if you’re trying to beat up your neighbor. just don’t do that.

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      3 years ago

      This seems like a win/win/win. We have a huge stockpile of weapons we built up almost explicitly to fight Russia (if need be), and now it gets to be used against them. And it doesn’t cost any American lives, which would make it seem like we’re exploiting another country to fight for us. But we’re not, we’re actually helping them repel an invader, so we get to be the good guys while getting everything we want! If we stopped sending weapons, Ukraine would be screwed. So everybody wins except the Russian!

      It’s rare in this world that a situation like this comes along, and we should be able to feel good about finally being the good guys.

        • Imotali@lemmy.world
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          3 years ago

          Then I call your debt to me for my portion of the taxes I paid for the highways you drive on, the social security you’ll claim when your older, and the 12 years of public education we paid for you and your children…

          What? Don’t want to pay that back? Then stfu and deal with it. Taxes are paid for the services rendered (education, medical expenses, highways, etc).

          After you pay for the services that money isn’t yours, it’s the government’s. You don’t get to tell other people how to spend their money. You choose to live in society so you choose to accept the services and their costs. The government uses this income, which is their money, and spends it how they see fit.

          Don’t like it? Too fucking bad. I didn’t think I would have to explain basic middle school economics to somebody who’s almost definitely a fully grown adult today.

          • luckyhunter@lemmy.world
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            3 years ago

            My roads are paid for by my fuel tax, my social security (which I’m sure will never come back to me) is payed by myself now to get back negative returns later in life, and I pay for my children’s education. I’d love to opt out of social security actually, they can even keep what I’ve paid in to date. You’ve contributed nothing to me actually, and the government isn’t someone else or a corporation spending profit, it’s all of us.

            • Imotali@lemmy.world
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              3 years ago

              You’re just proving more and more you don’t understand tax theory and American economics.

              • luckyhunter@lemmy.world
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                3 years ago

                What part is wrong? my fuel isn’t taxed? I don’t pay SS tax? I don’t pay my kid’s tuition? I’d love to know what phantom taxes I can stop paying.

                • Imotali@lemmy.world
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                  You do realise that regardless of whether you pay tuition, public education taxes were still collected on the assumption your children would possibly go to public schools. Your taxes alone do not fund your SS. Your taxes alone do not fund the things you would have benefited or do benefit from in America.

                  That’s why they’re paid for with taxes. So you don’t pay as much.

                  But I guess literal taxation theory 101, the fucking bare basics of tax theory, literally the simplest of the simplest concepts in economics was too difficult to conceptualise for you that you needed it stated plainly.