TL;DR: Yes.
I have mixed feelings about all the memes. I agree with you, and I also feel there’s a fringe part of all the memes that actually glorify what he did in a veiled way, but there are also a lot of memes that point out his links to the rest of the American bourgeoisie
Yes, but its also pretty funny
I think the thing that normalises the horror more is the fact that all this info came out and now nothing’s going to be done about it because those in power are more or less fine with their fellow bourgeois being pedos.
Imo the memes are a result of this: powerless people trying to cope with the horrors in ways that are available to them.
I did not fully appreciate the depths of the depravity
The conspiracy dredge that the files attract is far more harmful to the seriousness of the situation/Epstein’s crimes than off colour humour. It’s almost impossible to know what’s real or not with regards to the files now (unless you’re prepared to read for hours about his crimes, which I have zero desire to) with conspiracy theorists blowing every single thing up. Jokes are jokes, they may be in poor taste, but they don’t actively pollute information in the same way conspiracy theorists do.
can you justify your position here?
I tend to follow parapolitics/“conspiracy” stuff - i am seeing a lot of people who were being actively gaslit about it, completely validated.
not all conspiracy is “anunaki blood rituals to disguise the flat earth”.
Sometimes it’s having a mountain of evidence some group did something that never quite coalesces into a sure thing.
You spend some time looking at that material but maintaining skepticism, you notice two patterns - fantasy conspiracies - these are often emotionally driven affairs, with strong narrative throughlines, and obvious conclusions you can draw. There are more tells, but this is something like Pizzagate, for example.
A pizzagate type narrative would be a shitcoat. You take a true thing - there is a massive pedophile conspiracy involving powerful people. Then you make it ridiculous.
This sucks all the air out of the room. It kinda is the exact thing that whips you up into being mad about conspiracies.
But then there’s like, “The CIA has clearly done something, they have oblique documented references, there are witnesses in the right time and place, there is some amount of material evidence…” - there’s usually no story. No narrative. Nothing juicy - just this powerfully nasty outcome that’s implied but not quite confirmed.
And I know a lot of people who follow the latter kind of conspiracy who are extremely validated right now.
They’re probably talking more about right wing conspiracy than vindicated leftists. Parapolitics is not synonymous with (capital letters) Conspiracy Theorists
i’m really used to their conflation, sorry
It happens everywhere else, just not usually in these circles. I am saying probably though, can’t speak for the OP
Yes I do.
Epstein was always steeped in memes. Its the Dem media machine trying to control the narrative into it being exclusively about trump (and maybe even Russia (not Israel)) that’s the problem.
I don’t want memes about Epstein, I want the blood of those in the files.
I recently watched one of my niblings doomscroll past an animated (I think?) YouTube short about how to escape Epstein’s island. So, yea.
I think the operative phrase here is too much. It reads to me the same as asking if humans breed too much. Like too much for what? For sustainability? That’s a question with an answer. The question about whether humans are going to breed is like “of course!” we just love it, don’t we folks
. We’re going to do it the amount we do it. 6 year olds joke about Epstein. 16 year olds have probably gone viral using AI to make Epstein/Diddy/Kirk/Trump jokes. We’re just going to do it. The superstructure is like an eldritch beast that consumes content. If you got on camera and cried your eyes out pleading for us to stop, a music producer is going to sample you into a dubstep song.I mean I’ve been on the internet long enough to know that obviously, but damn it’s bleak huh.
Shits fucked.
Seize the opportunity - every meme you see, add a panel on to it of angry mobs flying the red banner and ripping these monsters to pieces.
I can’t really say because I haven’t run into this much yet. I will say that with the Diddy stuff the way it seemed to nearly instantly turn into a punchline really sanitized the criminality of it. And going back to an older example the way p***-bear was a running gag on 4chan was bigly normalizing.
The public has become accustomed to delegating responsibility and action to public officials. No storming the palace or swarming the capitol with mass movements, everyone’s a free rider and those who are not are effectively marginalized.
I read an article over a decade ago “Are Americans a broken people?” that is an interesting read
Yep, I think so too
I do think people get Epstein Brained. Ill leave it at that.
