CO2 Earth - Numbers for living on Earth for a list of organisations already doing daily CO2 updates.
It’s pointless, the west is already on the decline of co2 emissions, having reduced our yearly emissions by billions
Maybe it would make sense to do this in China and India and other countries whose co2 emissions are going up?
We’re way way above the targets recommended by the IPCC, and this is a global issue. You can try to blame-shift to China by saying their country’s emissions are higher, but they could blame-shift right back by saying that our are higher per-capita. And none of that helps. What actually does help is reducing emissions, regardless of who is responsible.
they could blame-shift right back by saying that our are higher per-capita
Planet doesn’t care about per capita, it cares about actual output, apparently Palau and Qatar have the highest co2 per capita in the world:
Who cares :\
I would never say that because I pollute a lot less than the average person that I have technically a per capita surplus, I can now go and pollute a whole lot more
Planet doesn’t care about per capita
But unfortunately people, their self interest, and their politics do.
Its like saying it doesn’t matter that the Coalition are dragged kicking and screaming along the renewables path. Yes progress is made, but it’d have been a whole lot more successful and easier if it was bipartisan. At every turn the Nationals especially have raised bloody murder over fuckin windmills.
So these people and their ‘concerns’, (only sometimes legitimate), have to be addressed and assuaged. Same with international relations, China might have to do a lot of heavy lifting, but they’ll be sure to throw bags of rubbish over the fence if they feel like the rest of the world aren’t pulling their own weights. It might be childish, but anger at those kinds of things tends to fester.
Unfortunately I haven’t got the time but this leads into a bigger argument of mine that climate change doesn’t move the needle for most people, economics and features do
tldr if solar and wind turbines were more expensive than coal or gas, would we use them? EV’s are currently <2% of the Australian car market, only having recently burst up in sales thanks to higher fuel prices, if they were worse than regular cars, required more maintenance, had a shorter lifetime etc, would people buy them?
features/economics sells EV’s/batteries/solar/heat pumps, not climate change
Yeah, economics always wins… in the end. It was a happy day when solar went below coal in cost, but also sad that we had to get there before changes for the better really started compounding. That was the day the writing was on the wall for fossil fuels, everyone knew it, with the slow commodification of EVs i think we’re not far off seeing it again there.
Although maybe theres some psychological shifts needed for people in their sense of a cars place in society, before commodification can happen. We often treat these machines like our very own Victorian England style carriage. In that case we may never cross the cost threshold, the human ego might leave it as a luxury item.
Well I think the point is our CO2 emissions fluctuate. The trend may be flat-lining on 2005 levels or down on 2005 levels, but then you get the smart little Tufton street types that come along saying “see they’re lying about the data, because theres all these peaks and troughs!” casually ignoring the fact that CO2 emissions generally go up in winter due to heating. At least in cold countries, for Australia maybe the opposite is true, I haven’t looked specifically.
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some cool scenarios here on how the electricity market turns out as well: https://openelectricity.org.au/scenarios
Good site, i’ll have to look at it more. Seems like not a million miles away from the kind of organisation a news station would want to reference in a situation like the above article.
