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Vimes has always been one of my favorite characters in all media lol
The origin of the quote is not Goebbels.
Someone else has traced the quotation to a novel by Upton Sinclair in The Profits of Religion (do a books.google.com search for the phrase and you will find it.
In short, it is highly unlikely that Goebbels said this. As is usually the case with such quotations, no one who cites it provides a source.
Randall Bytwerk, expert in Nazi propaganda (Prof. Randall Bytwerk)
The problem with quotes from the internet is, that you cannot rely on their accuracy.
- Abraham Lincoln, 1864
According to this the idea was coined even before WWI
Can’t believe Goebbels would stoop so low as plagiarism
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Easy way to shut up any idiot: If you got nothing to hide, gimme all your passwords, also all the info on your credit cards.
“… A great, rolling sea of evil. Shallow in some parts, yes, but deeper… oh, so much deeper in others. But men like you build these little rafts out of rules and vaguely good intentions and you say ‘This is the opposite. This will triumph in the end.’ Fascinating.”
-Vetinari to Vimes
Paraphrased from the top of my head haha sorry if I’ve mucked it up. God what a character Vimes is. I do believe he also quoted guilty of thinking something like “everyone is guilty of something if you could only find out what,” so maybe not a paragon of privacy in every iteration but a fantastic character nonetheless. Certainly gotta be among the best cops in fiction, considering he also nearly won a sort of people’s revolution haha.
Just because the picture lacks quite a few pixels, I’m gonna leave this here for better legibility.
Commander Vimes didn’t like the phrase ‘The innocent have nothing to fear’, believing the innocent had everything to fear, mostly from the guilty but in the longer term even more from those who say things like ‘The innocent have nothing to fear’.
And I checked and the quote you remembered was from “Night Watch”, published in 2002.
Everyone was guilty of something. Vimes knew that. Every copper knew that. That was how you maintained your authority.
But luckily Vimes isn’t a fascist deep down, so it’s more referring to the general psyche and not actually implying everyone is officially criminal
This is all in reference to the government.
Ask a person if they care about privacy from the government, you’ll get most yes. Ask them if they care Google sells anonomized data about what they are searching for, and most won’t give 2 fucks.
For most people they would be happy with strong protections from the government buying private data if they actually were presented the argument in a way they understood.
And that’s why nobody listens to privacy advocates, this type of shit.
I think the only way to get privacy into the thick skulls of those that don’t care is reminding them that one of the criminals can legally buy all that data in order to attempt scams or crimes against them. A very common scam in Brazil is the “cousin, my car broke and my phone died out, I need to pay the mechanic, can you do it for me?”
The other common buyer are robocallers.
Nobody cares. Fraud is low. It doesn’t affect people day to day. I think it’s the other way around. Privacy experts need to stop screaming over this shit that doesn’t actually affect most people. Your example doesn’t even really use data, it just tricks them.
where is your data?
The ftc reported 10B in fraud. Let’s assume it’s under reported and it’s 50B. That means .2% of the 26T USD economic output is fraudulent.
thats crazy, but how many people does that affect? idgaf about gdp you nerd.
Who would you be more suspicious of? A neighbor who always keeps their blinds closed? Or the neighbor who always peeks out of their window?
Or the neighbor
who always peeks out of their window?who insists that they must be allowed to stick a periscope through everyone’s blinds and have a look around?
