48 seconds. I predict a glut of helium. balloons for everyone

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      From what absolutely little I know, yes. Sustaining the reaction at such high temps for long is, as of now, difficult.

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        Yeah, I decided to actually bother and read the article. That’s why I made my edit. This sounds like a very important technical milestone for the development of fusion reactors. Hooray!

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    Fusion triple product: the duration the thing works x inverse of how close you are to melting the reactor vessel x how large is the reactor vessel

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    Can’t wait for fusion reactors to not be thing for another 50 years at the very least.

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      Breakthroughs will bring in investment and then things can accelerate if it ends up viable.

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      Like it has been for the past 30 years (which, I assume, was the joke here.)

      If fusion research was funded adequately we’d probably have it by now, but I don’t know if it’s the energy lobby or what that means that it’s chronically underfunded. An actually working fusion reactor design would bring about such an upheaval in the energy markets that I wouldn’t be surprised if plutocrats had a hand in making sure the research receives orders of magnitude less money than it should.

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    I can’t wait for the billionaires to increase our power bills for this.

    Yes yes I know it would be cheaper, but billionaires are going to charge more money even though it’s costing them less.

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      I can’t wait for the billionaires to increase our power bills for this.

      Yes yes I know it would be cheaper, but billionaires are going to charge more money even though it’s costing them less.

      You know, not everything has to be “eat the rich”.

      This could just be a really neat science article/discussion about a fusion test, and have no need to bring up Capitalism.

      The constant complaining just gets old after a while. Be focused, if you want to be listen to, and taken seriously.

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          Seriously, can’t we just be happy about something for a few minutes?

          Well, for me, it’s more of ‘quit your bitching about everything all the time, it’s annoying as F’.

          Though if it wasn’t that, it would definitely be what you stated.

          Edit: I don’t mean to be insulting, just expressing the irritation of it. I’m not trying to diminish anyone’s opinions on any subject, just trying to focus it into the proper conversations so that other conversations don’t get polluted (see below).

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        Some of us can’t not live with daily trauma of being poor lol

        Oh the comments annoy you? Sorry some of us will struggle quieter? Wtf

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          Oh the comments annoy you? Sorry some of us will struggle quieter? Wtf

          I’m advocating for you to be smart in how you do it. Apply it in the right places, in the right amounts, to the right audiences.

          ‘Bullet spraying’ the same thing over and over again everywhere just dilutes the message, and it turns people off to listening to the message, and harms the causes the opinions are being expressed for.

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        It’s fair that the constant complaining does get old, and the eat the rich shit is VERY old. But I don’t see power bills getting cheaper as a result of this technology eventually becoming viable. At least not at first. Especially when in the US you have people like Warren Buffet who buys power companies and immediately raises prices by around 50% as a matter of routine.

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          But I don’t see power bills getting cheaper as a result of this technology eventually becoming viable. At least not at first. Especially when in the US you have people like Warren Buffet who buys power companies and immediately raises prices by around 50% as a matter of routine.

          Ah! Now this is a conversation we can have. (Gets on soapbox.)

          With all the talk about cheap fusion energy, no discussion is ever made about how it’s going to fit in with our existing capitalistic system, and what happens to all the companies that exist worldwide that currently generate energy using other/classic means.

          Do they all go bankrupt? If so, what does that mean to the different economies in the different countries?

          Assuming they’re willing to go bankrupt in the first place. What about if they fight back, if they flex their political power to prevent the cheap fusion energy from being realized?

          Maybe they have governments subsidize them? If so, then so much for cheap energy, as we all pay more taxes to subsidize. At that point then why bother, economically that is. It still benefits the planet, so there’s that.

          Maybe the world powers decide to do nothing, and just shelve fusion power altogether, to protect their existing interests. Then what happens to the planet, as we get more and more into trouble using fossil fuel energies that harm the planet? Existing renewables (solar, etc.) aren’t enough, so something else is needed as well.

          We all joke and/or worry about fusion energy being here in 20 to 30 years, and how that 20 to 30 years always keeps sliding into the future, never coming to fruition. But the real problem is going to be once Humanity finally makes fusion power work practically, what does that mean to the status quo in power, and will they be accepting of it, and if not, what does the rest of us do about it?

          TLDR: Does old power ‘go quietly into that last good night’ and allow new power to take over, or do they fight back? And what does that mean for all of us? And the planet?

          (Gets off soapbox.)

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            I mean, If the oil and other polluting energy companies decide to fight back, I suppose that the fusion energy company can just send them a reactor as a gift to their headquarters and detonate them. Problem solved. /S

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    Unfortunately the amount of helium made in fusion is so small as to be useless for anything humans need. Fusion is just that efficient.

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    I’d like to know more. How do you actually harness the energy produced by temperatures that high? Is the end goal to figure out how to sustain the reaction at lower temperatures or do we actually have ways to generate electricity from those temperatures without losing most of it to waste?

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    48 seconds at those temperatures is no joke, that is pretty amazing. I didn’t see the article elaborate on what the current limiting factors are for pushing beyond 48 seconds. Like I wonder if it’s a hard wall, a new engineering challenge, a tweak needed, etc. this is the reactor that set the last record so they are doing something really right.