• someguy3@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Not strawmans, again he is literally demanding the entire world change end over end in 2 years. Are you/we going to play repeat now? Sounds like fun.

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      4 months ago

      Every part of that is a strawman. There are zero demands in the post, no references to the entire world or 2 years, in fact his specific accusations you are intentionally strawmanning away from span his very lengthy career as a politician. Do you know what a strawman is, are you aware you almost exclusively address arguments with a strawman? Its ingrained into how you type even

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        4 months ago

        Nope not a strawman, that’s what he demands when he says the world hasn’t changed in 2 years wrt drilling. The time frame is 2 years, as explained before. See repeat, you say yes, I say no.

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            4 months ago

            “When he says” followed by a paraphrase of what he said, or followed by the underlying logic of what he said, is not a strawman.

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              Sure. But youve given neither. Im not being cheeky with technicalities like “oh he used a synonym but he didnt use that exact word”. Nothing alluding to a demand, nothing alluding to the entire world, nothing alluding to a 2 year timeframe. Youve made all of it up.

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                  4 months ago

                  Oh its someone else now. Alright you gonna try explaining how the guy making specific criticisms of Bidens own actions was actually demanding the entire world change in 2 years? Throw in some stutters and 1s and !s to help sell it.

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                    4 months ago

                    It’s worse than that, he claimed that he was responsible for Republican policies that he tried to make better1111!!!1!1!1! Lol.

                    Trump is soooooo much worse, which is the whole point.

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            4 months ago

            More repeat? Are we having fun yet? Not a strawman when it actually captures what he says, he wants the world to overhaul on a dime.

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              4 months ago

              Im noticing a severe lack of quotes of what they said to help support your claim.

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                4 months ago

                Oh the strawman accusation isn’t working out so you demand quotations now. Oh wait you didn’t say the specific word “demand” so I can’t say you just demanded, according to your logic. So again, it captured what he said. Fun times yet?

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                  No, quotes would be the easy way of proving youre not strawmanning. If they said what you claim they said that would be my immediate go to. But my brain is wired to address what people say, not strawmen

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                    4 months ago

                    Again, it captured what he said. Thus not a strawman. You even have other people pointing that out.

                    Just like how you didn’t try to dispute me saying you demanded this or that, when you didn’t say the specific word “demand”. It captured what you said.

                    If your brain is so hard coded that you can only see specific words and can’t see what captures what he said, then you have one hell of a hard coding. Frankly, that’s on you.