• EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Haha no. It’s just straight up extraction.

    The US gets 65 billion barrels of free crude and Venezuela gets nothing. Be concerned, Delcy is a comprador and has completely sold out the Chavistas for no reason but personal benefit.

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        Oh, please do correct me with sources. How, precisely, does it benefit Venezuela to grant the US ownership of 55% of this oil reserve for 100 years and accept the permanent barring of Venezuelan SOEs from accessing this oil reserve, in exchange for nothing?

        I think at best, this is a means to avoid further military threats from the US.

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            It’s famously easy to prove negatives.

            Can you find a single source that shows Venezuela gains anything from this deal other than privately-owned infrastructure being located in its territory? I can’t, and I’ve been searching for over an hour.

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              I commented elsewhere in this thread that venezuela’s leadership projects 202 billion from this project, per telesur

              if you can’t prove they are getting nothing and are compradors why are you saying it? that is liberal idealism, making shit up because it fits the narrative in your head instead of basing it on what it really verifiable

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                I see. That’s the projected tax revenue on the other 45% of the oil reserves which the US doesn’t claim.

                So, Venezuela’s gain is the potential tax revenue on privately extracted oil and income taxes for employees.

                Telesur’s site won’t load for me, and I just get a 413 error. Never seen that on a news site before.

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                  aside from the infrastructure investment, the income for workers, the protection from US bombing and blocking all oil exports, the increased access to global trade in general, they do get at least some revenue for the oil directly. these are all benefits of the compromises they have made, which are unfortunately the best case and most tactical choices they can eek out in a really awful situation.

                  I don’t want to disparage the victims of this exchange for making calculated decisions to preserve maximum lives and potential for maintaining a functioning socialist project. if you really look at all the info we have about the situation, I still have no reason to believe there are any compradors among PSUV, which is why they have continued to show a level of top down solidarity rarely seen.

                  of course people are pissed about what is happening, but they aren’t blaming people within their movement or fracturing yet. once that happens, obviously we always side with the people, but right now the chavistas on the ground are still pretty much entirely behind Delcy. look to Bolivia for a very recent and salient comparison of what it would look like in venezuela the moment the grassroots detect compradors have taken power of the state.