• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    15 days ago

    Imagine blaming Nader for the Supreme Court stealing the election.

    I hate liberals. I hate liberals. I hate liberals. I hate liberals. I hate liberals. I hate liberals.

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Let us not blame the Democrats from running scandal ridden and deeply unpopular billdawg’s VP Gore who had Clinton’s baggage to carry. Let us not blame the Supreme Court who appointed Bush. Let us look past the fact Bush’s father was CIA or how the CIA installed him as Governor of Texas along with his brother jeb as Governor of Florida where the hanging chad controversy was.

    Let us not blame Gore for running a shit campaign or the Democrats for tossing the left under the bus during Clinton’s administration. Or the Clinton administration for their war on labor unions and the rise of Walmart killing home town stores. People did not forget the 1999 Battle for Seattle was fresh in people’s minds.

    Let us not forgot how Gore just folded and did not fight the Supreme Court despite winning the popular vote in Florida.

    The entitled little shits at the DNC just deflect and forget. Think they are owed and failed rather than own up to their own failures.

    People who voted Green probably wasn’t going to vote for the Dems anyways, especially in deep red Florida. But the guy who helped save thousands by getting seatbelts in cars gets the blame. It is never the dems fault ever. It is never the system’s fault ever.

    Ask a liberal - given what we seen from Obama bailing out the banks on 2008, freezing minimum wage at $7.25/hr, throwing away universal healthcare for Romney care insurance racket, having his entire cabinet dictated by Citigroup, Obama and Biden being warhawks, not closing Gitmo, and expanding on the PATRIOT ACT bullshit GW Bush did, if Gore was president on 9/11 what would have been different?

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    Iirc in Florida in 2000 more registered democrats voted for Bush than for Nader. They just ran a shit campaign, straight up. Nader had nothing to do with it

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    It’s very telling that liberals are so keen on rehabilitating the bush administration and the hawkish foreign policy that they aren’t willing to make it a party line that yes the 2000 election was credibly stolen via the Supreme Court and subsequent Gore capitulating.

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    The only time in my lifetime a third party candidate has had any actual effect on the election was Ross Perot, and he took votes away from the GOP candidate HW Bush.

    The DNC love to pretend that third parties hamstring them and cause them to lose material votes, but it has literally never happened.

        • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          Yeah they do, and in hindsight I shouldn’t have exaggerated. But I think I make a strong point on how many democrats have this real way to get leverage on the GOP, and so often they choose not to use it. Mary Peltoa never would have won in Alaska without it, for example.

          Plus the most common argument against it is one of its weakest “people are too stupid to properly use ranked choice voting!” and it’s hard to sell someone on a policy that goes “you’re a blithering idiot and will just be confused by the alternative.”