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    Selling the airports is scary. The 407 is said to be the most profitable company in Canada. Selling highway 407 created a constant profit pool that is now too expensive to return to the province. It’s doubtful it ever reached its volume promises and this is wasting public resources. High charges keep many away. Will the airports become equally undersubscribed due to sweet spot profit pricing and unusable by everyone driving on the QEW?

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      The 407 is said to be the most profitable company in Canada.

      With profits going to the Canada Pension plan. How awful.

      High charges keep many away.

      That’s how traffic relief highways work. If it were cheap, it would be full of idiots commuting across Toronto every day and no better than the 401.

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    Canada is “selling” assets in the sense that we’re charging for access to resources that require large amounts of investment, research, and development. These aren’t all transactional, rather these can and should lead to deeper partnerships and long-term exchanges of technology.

    The US-Israel-Iran conflict has no sign of ending. I suspect the Middle East will have to re-align behind Iran as the US seems to be experiencing institutional dementia. At this rate, the world will have to cope with the supply shocks from the closure of the Strait of Hormuz for much longer than anyone would like.

    Canada has the products the world needs to keep industry going. We can make these deals to fill the gap, and these deals will continue to keep Canada as a desirable place to live. We’re also a bulwark to basically the loss of Rule of Law to the United States.

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      These resources should be nationalized and owned by the public through a crown Corp. Instead of letting U.S. businesses snatch up everything and selling it back to us at a much higher price due to economic conflicts.

      And these resources can potentially be used in conflicts like the Palestinian genocide.

      At the very least, we should find better economic partners.

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        Carney is just Harper 2. Harper sold off Alberta oil rights to the Chinese, and when they abandoned the wells, the Ottawa leftists take up the tab.

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        And where are we supposed to get the trillions needed to get these developed AND the money to build non-market housing?

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          At the end of the article: tax profits and wealth. I’m hoping this means corporate taxes.

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            So you want higher taxes on big corporations… like the big corporations at the investment summit… that you’re against… You don’t see a problem here?

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              You asked where the money was coming from, I told you the artical says at the bottom.

              I could see an argument that charging companies a tax would dissuade them from coming to Canada. I think this is fine, we can see the general results of race to the bottom in the states.

              You’ve defended what we’ve been doing since at least the 80s and it hasn’t worked well for most Canadians. Theres a well respected book “capital in the 21st century” that details why, and provides remedy: taxes.

              Your handle is Tesladecyple, elon is a well known price of shit. Be bettee

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                You should check out the results in countries that did what Avi wants to do. Spoiler alert: communism is much worse.

                Tesla (Nikola Tesla) was a great scientist and an inventor well before that asshat Elon used his name for the Nazi mobile. Educate yourself.

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                  Taxation is not communism, its not anywhere near communism. I don’t know how you could have made that jump.

                  Yes everyone in 2026 is going to assume you meant the scientist, go back to having sex with your pidgeon.

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          Make companies pay for their fucking share.

          They benefit from our infrastructure, education and health-care services to deliver their goods, have specialized employees and healthy workers, but they’re not paying into the system. AND they get taxpayer funded welfare all the fucking time.

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    I love how the CPC continues to get non-conservatives to fight one another over purity.

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      CPC isn’t doing anything here. Carney is a conservative. The Liberals have historically sided more with CPC than NDP.

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    The NDP are the captains of economic stupidity. The only thing Avi suggested was to build lots of non-market housing, as if that’s gonna solve all our problems.

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            First, he’s pushing for public ownership of several major businesses/assets and I suspect he wouldn’t stop with the ones he listed. I don’t mean to be that guy but that’s full on communism, which has a long history of failure. I can’t begin to explain why in a single post, there is lots of literature on it.

            His entire approach is to take from the rich and give to the poor - and that’s not entirely a bad thing. The problem is that’s ALL he has. It won’t solve the problems we have.

            Prices are set by supply and demand. When people have more money, the demand effectively goes up and actually increases prices. The solution is to increase the supply, witch he doesn’t address at all for things like gas and groceries.

            He has absolutely nothing for stimulating the economy, or making us less dependent on the US.

            He keeps saying we need to be creative but he’s just rehashing old ideas that were proven to fail.

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              I disagree with some of your points, here’s my take:

              I came from a country which used to have publicly-owned assets, specifically gas and utilities (including communication/phones). They served a specific function, to subtly influence the market while still keeping it free. There were always private entities competing with it, and they still flourished by providing better service or value add, as opposed to the public option, which didn’t advertise, and only offered the bare minimum (at a cheaper cost).

              There was a major push to move to privatization after and it was great for about 2 years before it became a race to the bottom. Since the barrier to entry was so high, there wasn’t really a free market for it, and things became an oligopoly and service went to shit. The old reliable ones are expensive and offered bad service, any newcomers get bought out or went bankrupt. I think public ownership is the middle ground, and needed to keep the “free market” truly free.

              And not having anything other than equalizing resources is fine for now. As you said, it won’t solve all problems, but it will solve some, and prevent others. Then, we can start looking at other problems and adjusting.

              My experience working in different countries is that: a rich nation is not one where even poor people can afford cars. It’s the one where even the rich people take the bus.

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                I would be interested to learn more about the financials of those public utilities. Were they a money pit for the tax payers or did they turn a profit? If they at least broke even I would concede that it’s a well balanced solution, although I would still need convincing it would work for groceries which have very diverse supply chains.

                I was born in a fully communist country where everything was publicly owned and it resulted in staggering debt, stagnation, and ultimately war. Perhaps my experience is making me extra weary but when I hear someone suggest public ownership as the only solution I just can’t get behind that. I need to see that it’s a small part of a greater plan, which isn’t what Avi is offering.

                I strongly disagree that waiting is “fine for now” when we’re being squeezed by the orange turd down south.

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      And selling our country to wall street will cause Americans to back off their threats because we have given them so much more control? Seems to me it would be the opposite.

      You can save some time and reply with a single emoji next time anyone can easily divine what someone celebrating the person who paid 250 million to get the orange scourge elected and giving double sieg heils at his inauguration thinks of the NDP.

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      We’ve been doing the “provide tax incentives for big corporations” for decades. That’s caused these problems. Yet, The NDP who’ve never been in power who’s solution is to tax these companies will never work.

      Its shameful you’ve got so many upvotes.

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        Building more housing is not the solution when we have hundreds of thousands of condos and homes sitting empty on speculation.

        Lewis needs to get his head out of his ass.

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          Yes it is the solution. We need family sized homes near transit corridors. We did this in the post war period. Most of our boomers benefit from post war federal government involvement in building housing. We stopped in the 90s and now look at us.

          The condos were shoebox investments, not real housing. Good they are losing money. We need livable homes.

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        No, we need to prevent rich people and corporations from hogging all the real estate, and we need to stimulate economic growth.

        Granted, Carney isn’t doing enough on the first point but Avi’s solution is like constantly pouring water into a cup that has a hole in it.

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          There is lots of academic evidence making affordable housing more readily available improves social and economic outcomes for individuals, like Scandinavia does. Dont know why you are vilifying public housing. You half-talk as if the free market can solve it if we somehow stimulate the market to build more, but make sure the rich dont do that? Doesn’t sound practical.

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            I’m not sure what you mean by “make sure the rich don’t do that”. I’m saying a lot of residential real estate was bought up for the purposes of renting. That effectively reduces the supply of available housing for purchase, which drives up prices.

            Public housing can have a place in a well functioning economy but it’s not sufficient by itself and I haven’t heard Avi suggest anything beyond that.

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      How is the current system of house ownership working out for the vast majority of people.

      Some people have no chance of ever owning anything, some people are underwater on houses that now have bigger mortgages than the house is worth, some people are still making due, and the upper groups of owners own so many properties that the prices will never go down unless the economy crashes and everyone loses.

      Getting more people in coops and other non market housing is a good idea and I don’t see any actual ideas from the other parties that don’t just enrich those who already have too much.

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        We’re facing high housing prices, high grocery prices, high gas prices, prospects of job losses and economic stagnation due to tariffs, threats of sovereignty from the US, dilapidated military, brain drain, …

        And Avi’s answer to all of this is to… have the government build cheap housing??

        You tackle these things by attracting investment, stimulating the economy, breaking up oligopolies, preventing hogging of real estate.

        Granted, Carney isn’t doing enough on those last two points but Avi’s plan is as useless as PP’s “axe the tax” crap.

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          If you’re saying he hasn’t talked about grocery prices, then I definitely know you’re just sea lioning because he’s talked about everything you mentioned.

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            No, I’m saying he never talked about how he plans to solve these problems. He talks plenty about the problems, he just has no real solutions.

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              LoL! He does!

              If you’re so adamant that he didn’t, then I’m not gonna correct a sea lion. Because it’s clear where your headspace is at.

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          So building cheap houses would:

          -Use Canadian lumber and other Canadian products to build them.

          -stimulate the economy with all of these points.

          -employ Canadians to build the houses.

          -employ Canadians to design them.

          -maybe make these housing projects into housing coops so prices can be kept down and multi class groups can live together rather than class separation.