• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    Motherfuck!

    Lookie here I’m all good with AI as a chatbot or making princess jasmine porn for the wackaloons.

    But connecting to your email, sending emails. OR FUCKING BEING USED FOR MILITARY INTELLIGENCE I draw the fucking line!

    The hell is wrong with these people!

  • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    “AI CEOs need a reason to not be held accountable for economic damage of their garbage product and paid the Pentagon to release news that justifies their failures and inability to progress further.”

    FTFY

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    I’m sure somebody told Hegseth that he could get rid of anyone that actually knew what they were doing at the Pentagon and just replace them with AI. And he believed it and did it. And here we are.

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    The Minab strike was the end of American Hegemony. This will be the inflection point for the history books that marks the decline of the American Empire. It’s the first time AI was used to cause a mass human casualty event. It galvanized Iranian resistance and allowed hardliners to seize the military cells that closed the strait. It ensured no “coalition of the willing” would form in Europe to legitimize the attack, which resulted in enmity between the US and Europe that is actively exploited by China.

    With the US out of allies, the conventional war profiteering strategy of “embroil our military partners in a hardware clearing sale” didn’t occur. The US carried on and depleted 10 years of missile production in 3 months, with the same hallucinating AI systems guiding strikes to dig deeper craters instead of actually disabling air defenses. The result was an inability to deny Iran from closing the strait. After the F-16 shootdown over Iran, air operations shut down and the window of opportunity was closed. At this point, Iran has enormous leverage, and the world realizes that American hard power has eroded just as far as soft power has, with USAID turned into a shadow of it’s former self. There’s no more reason to put up with the sanctions, threats and bullying that have worked for 100 years. Once the dollar is discarded as the world’s currency (and why wouldn’t nations use renminbi at this point, that’s where everything comes from anyways) the US will transition into a “middle power” and we’ll be entering a much more chaotic world.

    This one AI hallucination has undone 150 years of US geopolitical supremacy. Even during the height of the cold war, when the USSR was an effective counter in public perception, they were nowhere near the same level of soft power projection. Palantir is gonna get away with it too. Their stock price has been juiced by the AI craze, despite their defense programs being the heart of the AI slop grenade that poisoned the golden goose.

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      Tbh Palantir is basically the exact opposite of AI LLM hallucination. Comparing it with ai hallucinations is doing the world a very big disservice and is playing down their systems a lot.

      Palantir is a data aggregator of enormous proportions that is actually very good at visualising this data. From a Big data analyser it’s impressive. It’s so good it reduces a living being to data points and nothing more. It is so good at this that it can track when to kill your family when you are home, because your home is way less secure than your office and they employe this in the Gaza genocide for example.

      It is very likely, that a wrong intelligence report is way more to blame for this or that it analysed that one of the children’s dad was a value target. The report was just wrong so the dad wasn’t there. The children’s are calculated collaterals to reduce moral in this systems and this is part of their press material btw.

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      Yes but dont blame the ai. Blame the humans who have no idea what they’re doing starting an illegal war to take the headlines away from their global child sex trafficking ring.

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        Blame the Americans citizens. They live in a democracy and voted en masse for this idiotic administration. Nobody tricked them, nobody lied to them, they wanted this. They don’t deserve the respect they get from the rest of the world. Their countless atrocities in latin America and middle East have been glossed over for “the greater good”. Americans do not deserve the respect the rest of the world offers them anymore!

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        I mean, of course. But the AI “defense system” that masqueraded as accurate intelligence, sold by a company that is lying through its teeth about its efficacy, is the inflection point.

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    Oh! No fucking shit! I am so surprised! Never saw that coming! Out of the fucking blue! No way anybody could have foreseen that! Using llm to decide human deaths could never go wrong!

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    “Noooo brooooo the ai did the bad thing, broooooo now we can’t even charge anyone with war crimes bro, it was the ai who did it that’s so unfortunate broseph, nobody is to blame now, that shit just happened with AI bro, brooooooo”

    Like obviously they didn’t ask grok “can we bomb this facility” this is absolutely just running media interference

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      When someone uses a gun to kill, the gun is simply evidence and the means of murder. The person is the one on trial and will be punished for it.

      Ditto for this AI.

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        That only works because people are smart enough to understand a gun is nothing more than a metal tool.

        Those same people are too dumb to understand AI is a bunch of coding and nowhere near “smart”. Morons are unironically dating AI…

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    This kind of deniability is a core feature of AI. “Um, the killing/hacking robots we built and pointed at targets went out of control” is not something that should mitigate criminal charges.

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    Key fact:

    Officials involved in the investigation pointed to gaps that they said were left after Hegseth dismantled most of the Pentagon’s civilian harm mitigation, or CHM, units — cutting headcount across a number of teams by roughly 90% to fewer than 20 staff members, people with direct knowledge of the matter said. Centcom’s team was reduced from 10 to 1.

    No CHM team member reviewed the Minab site before the strike, according to officials involved in the internal investigation. That was a consequence of the cuts in staffing but also a decision not to involve the group in planning and operations, the officials said.

    This is less about an AI mistake and more about a culture shift (which leads to an over-reliance, but is heavily a “we don’t care”).

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      so this department of war criminal needs to be in jail or guillotined for war crimes. esptein class and dont forget he fired multiple generals in the department of defense not war for giving advice about the war. he ignored and fired them to proceed to abuse our men and women in uniform.

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    Bullshit. They deliberately committed a war crime because they thought they’d demoralize their enemy.

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      They deliberately fired the “let’s try not to commit war crimes” intelligence division because minimizing collateral damage is woke.

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      It is entirely possible that they are just that stupid.

      That being said, stupidity is not a defense.

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        if they are that stupid then they should not be in the position fired necessary all of the ones using the ai and the ai contractors plus jail of course since being stupid is no excuse for war crimes and getting away with it.

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          Except people voted for them, that’s why they’re in the position, because the United Statesian people voted for them to be in the position.

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            well no i did not vote for them most are brain washed to vote for them using ai slop and hallucinations remember USA has lower than 100 iq avg currently i am ashamed of our nation of low iq people now. we are being stupider and stupider and the espteins are all the more happy to control these stupider people all while using distractions such as culture wars to distract from the esptein corruption crimes and war crimes

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          That’s what I said, but with more words (and odd grammar/ sentence structure/ punctuation).

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      40 years ago, when the US Navy would should down an Iranian Airliner, we did it with old fashioned American know-how.

      20 years ago, when the US Air Force bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, we did it with the latest in stealth technology.

      Now we outsource the job of murdering civilians to a computer. Fucking shameful.

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      There is a post on “slop grenades” in workforce (shoppify as AI early adopter) today. Nature of that article is whinning about all of the extra work involved in reviewing AI slop. AI is murdering people in this case because the required adequate review process is ignored. There is likelihood, in this case, that “cruelty is the point” strategic thinking was at play. AI containment/checks excuse as an after the fact explanation for defeat, and obvious unification reaction to “cruelty is the point” idiocy instead of surrender, is still one of the paths for AI to be a destructive force.

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    yeah we know ai killed the girls so are we holding anyone accountable or blame the ai and hold no one accountable. how bout punish the ai company by removing their contracts and jailing them as they are responsible for creating a product that killed 123 school children at the bare min of course also take back all their wealth bankrupt the company and take the ceo private funds since they are jailed war criminals have no rights.

    ai companies are now war criminals in this case.

    only with sufficient and just enforcement of law can we create better ai to serve humanity not ai slop and hallucinations that killed 123 school children. soon to be the USA citizens if the esptein class have their way.

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    You’re absolutely correct, that was a school and not a uranium enrichment facility. You’re right to push back on that.

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      I need to know how your brain works. Like what neural connections are firing that lead to commenting this? Do you think Trump will personally read this and be offended? Are you trying to spread anti-Trump propaganda to shift indifferent people away from their indifference? Do you just think it’s really funny to say that sentence? Do you not think about it at all and it’s as natural as blinking? I genuinely cannot wrap my head around what it’s like to be an “I would vote for Obama a third time if I could” liberal. Please this is a real question I need to know why people like you talk like this I’ve been fascinated for years and this type of comment behavior hasn’t faded away.