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- cosmere@sh.itjust.works
pretty telling that first reation of some here can be summed with: what is really white?
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In no particular order:
- Mourn the loss of numerous family, friends, and acquaintances.
- Panic and prepare for the impending crash of my society’s essential supply chains.
- Existential meltdown at the idea that billions of people can vanish overnight.
What a stupid fucking question.
I’d probably start by trying to figure out what the fuck happened to everyone.
This is your daily reminder that Irish and Italians weren’t considered white at the beginning of the 20th century in America.
Hell, some people in Europe don’t consider albanians to be white.
Also I’d be very concerned as to where all the racial minorities went. Like genuinely concerned.
One of my favorite facts was that West Side Story was initially about the rivalry between polish and Italian immigrants in New York and Leonard Bernstein had to rework it because he received feedback that it would be too niche and people who didn’t live in New York in a very specific window of time wouldn’t get it.
People who don’t live in Europe don’t even realise how divided white Europeans are. The Irish and Eastern Europeans are even victims of colonisation.
And forget North America and Europe, just look at Africa and tell me they did not have inter-ethnic conflicts.
The post is very silly and North Americancentric.
Literally Brexit was mostly about Brits not liking other Europeans being free to move to Britain, especially Poles.
I lived in London and unless they actually start talking and you hear their accent (or, even “worse” for the average Brit, their language) you can’t actually tell a Pole from a Brit.
So. yeah, a fucking mid-sized country in the modern era has left a massive European trade union which gave them massive benefits (it has been estimated that Britain’s GDP is growing 2% less every year because of leaving) because of their xenophobia against other Europeans, especially Eastern and Southern Europeans.
Plot twist: Chinese and Indians are not racial minorities.
There’s too many minorities!
🎶At my water park 🎶
Raptured.
With all these immigrants, Heaven for sure has become a bad place, which is why I refused to go there when offered!! When God comes to his sense and remigrate them, I’ll reconsider!!
What, you doubt me? Such a lack of faith! You must be a bad Christian! You’ll probably go to Hell!
And shit Albanians are the whitest anyone could be, being albino and shit
Whitest people I’ve seen are from northern China. Europigs have nothing on the…
It will be skin colour again, but limited to a tighter spectrum.
People really forget that racism against Italians and Irish was a thing.
Poor Irish folk. I love the Irish. And while I’ve plenty of opportunity to watch blazing saddles it just doesn’t appeal to me. Is it wrong of me to defend the Irish in light of my ignorance of this humorous show?
It would be wrong not to defend the Irish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_rule_in_Ireland?wprov=sfla1
It still is.
It’ll just be the intra-European racism that already exists, which doesn’t particularly follow skin color.
Germanic, Celtic, Slavic, Mediterranean, etc… Each with their own subdivisions ready to go if the others were wiped out.
As a man from that little village here, fuck those cunts from the village over there! Their fields are full of hamsters and their wheat smells of elderberries.
mediterreans would be darker skin, so they are the first targets. then it goes to anti-semitism in the end.
Historically, no. In Germanic regions it’s first Jews, then Slavs, then Celts, then Mediterraneans. Mediterraneans get credit for the Reniassance, Greco-Roman civilization and Christianity.
Mediterranean is too broad. Northern Italian and Greek were ok for Nazis.
Certainly not Libyans, Egyptians, Palestinians etc.
I was going to say, some pasty motherfuckers who can’t be exposed to the sun for 15 minutes without going to the hospital are going to say they’re the superior people.
They tried, but everyone supported Macklemore.
Nah, as such a pasty motherfucker, other white people expect you to tan. I grew up being teased for my paleness and my neighbor offered to let me use her tanning bed. (I declined because I burn but don’t tan).
My public school system was 100% white until my senior year of high school when a black family sent their kids to kindergarten.
Depending on your definition of ‘white’, probably start scavenging for the upcoming crisis. The loss of like 90% of the world’s population will create a supply chain crisis and general systems collapse. Who knows what skills and technologies are lost.
Given that it’s only non-whites that are gone, no skills or technologies were lost ;)
I hope to the gods old and new that the winkyface means you are actually joking, not “hahah only serious” joking.
Their comment history suggests they are being serious.
Well, that one’s getting a downvote, a user note, and a block.
;)
So glad I learnt how to add a note on Voyager. This is very helpful
Wait. How does this work? I can’t find these and I really miss tags I had in Apollo.
Make sure you enable them in settings ->user tags, “enable user tags”. Then, go to a user page, unroll the top right menu and “edit tag”
Yeah… Racist and a transphobe, who could have guessed?
“Transphobe” implies fear. There is no fear.
You have a middle schooler’s understanding of the world around you, and that is being unkind to most middle schoolers.
phobia can also mean aversion, as in hydrophobic…or an aversion to water.
Did your parents drop you on your head when you were younger? Or did you have to work to become so ignorant?
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You’re afraid of the funny feeling you get in your parts when you see a hot trans gal
Or just another pathetic, basement dwelling edgelord, spending his time looking to get a reaction by being an absolute moron. I have a hard time believing people are that stupid
For future reference if the username ends in @sh.itjust.works you can just assume the worst.
Yes - 100% this. I can confirm I’m a total cunt.
I wouldn’t say I’m a good representative of my home instance, you bigot. It’s a Canadian instance, and I don’t reside there.
You give Darkwing Duck a bad name asshole.
Did you mean “a bad rep”?
They’re both valid statements
Skills and technology won’t matter when you starve because you don’t have the hispanics doing all the agricultural work.
There’s also a 90% reduction on food demand, don’t forget. Can live on stored food for some time while figuring out production.
You are the reason nobody likes you.
Excuse me, but what country provides the most printed silicon for chip manufacturing, and what ethnicity are they?
Now consider how much of our daily technology we take for granted makes use of that printed silicon.
That’s just one example.
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Rare Earth minerals and the skills and equipment to process them are not in the Western world. It is, however, in a grand multitude of countries elsewhere in the world, all of which wouldn’t be considered “white”. And… That covers everything from guided missiles to toys.
The most efficient production lines in the world, with the most advanced manufacturing capabilities, are in China. China sells the equipment and the skill to manage the equipment to its neighbours, and we get everything from clothes to tooth brushes from that.
The world has ONE, only ONE, major source of Gum Arabic, which is a country in Africa you’ve probably never even heard of. This includes the skills and expertise to manufacture it, and it’s used in food and paint.
Do I even need to mention where the world gets the majority of its oil from, and where all the skilled workers and equipment is to process said oil? Or how important oil is to the world, even completely discounting its use as a fuel?
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You exact quote was:
Given that it’s only non-whites that are gone, no skills or technologies were lost ;)
Skills and technology can always be reproduced, more easily if adequate documentation exists. However, that is not your premise. Your premise is no skills or technology would be lost, which is just wrong. All of it will be lost, and whoever will be left will need to go through the long process of learning and reproducing said skills and technology, which can take multiple generations.
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History already showed what happens. 90% chance people start going for the Irish.
Don’t forget Italians.
Also Catholics in general.
People are incredibly good at creating out-groups and attacking them.
And the Irish will start going at Dubliners, and Dubliners will start going at North Dubliners?
The far right already dislike white people from eastern Europe
Dead ass what would happen, gingers would become the new “blacks”
They are already called potato n-I’m not going to finish that.
It will be hair color first. I have red hair so I’m next on the petty hate machine.
Never trust lighteyes!
Scrolled too far to find this
Blue eyes but they remain a pretty deep blue. I always wonder how the Alethi would categorize me lol
I assume people with medium lightness would be categorized contextually by them, sort of like how people with skin tones that don’t read clearly black or white are irl. If someone with ambiguous eyes is wearing a hand sleeve and acting noble you’ll assume she’s a light eyes, but if she’s wearing a glove and interacting with laborers you’ll assume she’s a dark eyes.
Or anyone with a name too palindromic
And remember to reject any shards offered to you lest you become one of them
“White” is a relatively modern concept, and one that can be quite nebulous. I see some people call Bernie Sanders white, but I also see white nationalists who dont consider Jews white. Back when the British were committing a genocicde against the Irish and driving millions of Catholic refugees into a predominantly Protestant America they weren’t considered white. Some Nazis considered Japanese people “honorary whites”. People around the Mediterranean are a whole mixed bag- Italians, Greeks, and Spaniards have all been treated as white or non-white at times. Racists still debate whether Cleopatra and other Coptic Egyptians should count as “white” or not.
And of course Europeans have been making up divisions and killing each other over it for centuries. The very concepts of “Italy” and “France” and “Germany” and “Spain” and the like are pnky a few generations old.
It’s not just “white” people though. The Japanese have a history of committing atrocities against their neighbors in Korea and China. Chinese history is largely the story of the Han people conquering the nations around them, and they are still committing genocide against groups like the Uyghurs and Tibetans today. Sudan had the genocide of the Darfuri in the early 2000’s. The Rohingya genocide in Myanmar is still ongoing. We could go on and on.
The idea that only “white” people are racist is, itself, a racist idea.
I’m mixed race and it’s disturbing how true this is. One of the weird things about being mixed race is that people feel comfortable telling me about their racial views.
There are a bunch of racial and ethnic prejudices that white people (particularly white Americans) don’t even know exist.
One funny thing is that many forms of racism focus don’t focus on skin color and instead focus on other arbitrary markers; ear lobes, noses, hair patterns.
i’m told eyelid fold based racism is pretty big in the korean community i live by. i don’t understand that one in particular (and i’m happy not quite understanding), but bigots gonna bigot. there’s always going to be something people are born with that they sort and prejudge by.
Thank you for this comment, I was thinking the exact same thing.
Coptic Egyptians
But Cleopatra was not a Coptic Egyptian.
I agree every big community of people can be a different level of racist to someone, and I guess if you think of it like a racist food pyramid, then ‘whites’ are at the top of that pyramid.
I don’t know there are other ethnicity that are pretty good at it. All I can say with certainty is that humans are very good at it. Never seen another animal care about anothers colour so much. Could you imagine if other animals separated by color it would be ridiculous.
Yes, they are generally better at everything. /s
If you think white US Americans are somehow the only ones capable of racism talk to an Iranian about their feelings toward their neighbors. Or better about minorities in their own country. You will be enjoying an absolutely spectacular history and cultural lession on why Iranians are morally, genetically and culturally superior. Just ask something innocent like “What do you think about arabs?”
White racists dream of being even half as racist as the average Persian.
You’re a star-belly sneech, you suck like a leech
You want everyone to act like you
Kiss ass while you bitch so you can get rich
But your boss gets richer off you.DKs Holiday in Cambodia
First Star Trek, now the Sneetches. If there’s one thing this post has done is bring out some cultured references.
This goes for every human population, by the way.
What, you think only Europe had racism and discrimination through history?
What, you think only Europe had racism and discrimination through history?
“I don’t like this conversation so me and my strawman are going to have a different one now.”
What are you talking about? That oh god no, someone dares to point that garbage racist meme is racist and garbage?
The semantical arguments about who counts as “white” already exist and often in very hate filled ways. Alt right “preserve the white race” people already try to bring back the pre world war 2 “Italians don’t count as white” nonsense. And of course tons of Italian Americans are certainly not known for progressive stances
So basically targets would shift?
Don’t forget that WASPs often excluded entire professions to what they considered ‘lesser’ whites and catholics and Jews.
Ben Shapiro once said that Jews might not be good at the NBA like blacks when he doesn’t realize (or does but is lying) that Jews dominated basketball in the 1920s and 1930s. Ironically then as now racism played a role in stereotyping them. Since Jews were seen as crafty and intelligently sneaky this was seen as manifesting in the sport, which often does need deception to get ahead.
They could go further back and not count the Irish either
The concept of whiteness comes from the Spanish inquisition after the fall of Grenada. Being fair skinned was a way of proving without a doubt that you weren’t a jew or a muslim.
My guess is we’d start dividing up amongst religious heritage again. Mormons vs. Evangelicals Vs. Protestants Vs. Catholics Vs. The Real Christians
Also the Spanish discriminated against Muslims who converted to Christian and doubted their faith as true. This was a generational thing since even their grandchildren were seen as suspect even if they and their parents were born and raised Catholic.
Sure but I don’t think the alt right morons on twitter recognize that. They just see olive skin and a name that ends in a vowel and go ew gross different
Huh name that ends in a vowel? Having a hard time thinking of guys names but girls there are a fair amount.
Last name. Sometimes first name like Giuseppe or Luigi but more like Gotti, gambino, etc
Well the Irish would not be white again.
Having just come from the “taking things too literally” thread, contexts like these make it fun to deliberately take it too literally.
What would I do if I woke up and there were only white people left? I’d probably think “what the fuck is going on” as I see only white people floating around in empty space, and then I’d die from a mix of lack of oxygen, hypothermia, and lack of pressure.
Though maybe I’d first ask a clarifying question, like if that “black people” was just an example or would there still be like asians, and latinos? Do Irish and Italians count as white for this question? Basically set it up to look like I’m engaging with the question in good faith before taking the “clarification” to the extreme and giving the above answer.
And then poke at whatever new edge cases they leave when they try to clarify again, until I get bored and just disengage because it was a fucking dumb question.
You wouldn’t see anything though as there’d be no Sun to illuminate what you were seeing.
If the brown people were included and werent here, who would pick all the food. It’d be a real problem
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