• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    It is not an either/or thing. You can absolutely remove the man abusing the people and tell the US to kindly fuck off.

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      3 months ago

      I honestly don’t see how you can do that. The problem is that the opposition and the media is presumably propped up by the US. Under that type of siege (and it is a siege, the US is at war with Venezuela) you don’t have lots of choices. History has shown the results of US interventionism in many countries. So I do think it’s an either/or thing.

      PS: Just look at Argentina how quickly the democratic and social progress of a country can be dismantled.

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        3 months ago

        It is entirely possible, probable even at this point that Maduro just lost the confidence of his people.

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          3 months ago

          Sure, it’s impossible to keep a democracy going with those sanctions. The US is allowing nobody to trade with them. Eventually they’ll surrender or collapse.

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            3 months ago

            Nobody?

            They export to China, Turkiye, Spain, and even the US. That hardly sounds like they’ve been blockaded.

            And the Biden administration tried to roll back the sanctions we do have. But Maduro went back on the deal, specifically related to making sure the elections were free and fair.

            At some point Maduro is the one fucking around. And obviously it’s possible to tell the US to leave you alone, plenty of countries have poor relations with the US and are doing fine.