The key they used to make the base engine was ripped from online, not made by them that’s the nails in the coffin right there. They also provided means to publicly available bios keys. They did distribute it, you just had to dig into discord or other means to find it, but it was there.
They were forced to settle because they publicly talked about paying shit on discord too…
So they were forced to settle because they did this thing illegally, yet you say they didn’t…? What…?
The key they used to make the base engine was ripped from online
Proof please. Since it never went to court, nothing like this would have been “found” through the process of discovery. I suspect you’re just making shit up.
They also provided means to publicly available bios keys.
Nope, you had to rip your own to use the software.
They did distribute it, you just had to dig into discord or other means to find it, but it was there.
Users chatting on discord != yuzu doing it.
Nothing about Yuzu itself as a program was illegal. Period.
How some of the developers talked in their Discord shows that they were using it for illegal things, which fucked them. Not the application itself.
They were forced to settle because they pirated TOTK ahead of its actual release to allow yuzu to support it, then sold that version that supported it on patreon -> “Made money off it” in nintendo’s eyes. I think it’s fucking stupid that they’re gone, but I’m not surprised, Nintendo happily goes after anything.
Nothing illegal was mentioned there on the emulation side. TOTK is a rom in this specific instance. A Rip of a cartridge, which considering how early it was obtained must have been ripped from a cartridge by somebody (probably on the distribution chain or even from someone inside Nintendo). The system keys didn’t change to support that ROM. They were dumb and advertised support for something that they shouldn’t even have which (probably) to Nintendo proves piracy by the devs as they shouldn’t have been able to obtain the rom.
Nothing about this is how YUZU itself operates as a program. It’s not an illegal emulator and you need to stop spouting this nonsense.
For a “legal” emulator making money they sure didn’t put up a fight, I wonder why the other emulators are doing so and without the money that yuzu illegally pulled in? Maybe because yuzu wasn’t what you thought…?
You literally say they did shit wrong, then in the same breath defend them. This is hilarious. For someone who apparently did nothing wrong, they rolled over hella fast, that doesn’t make you question what they actually did…? Here’s the clue, the lawyers told them they were fucked, settle before discovery or you’re worse than screwed. There’s no way to prove any of this obviously, but it’s the only scenario that makes a shred of sense given the circumstances.
For someone who apparently did nothing wrong, they rolled over hella fast
So Yuzu, at it’s peak. Was making 45k a month from patreon donations. That’s about 500k a year if that rate would sustain… In reality they were averaging 15-20k a month closer to 200k a year. Then a MASSIVE mega-corp hits you with legal action amounting to 2.4 billion or 12 YEARS of income… Do you put up a fight? How much of a fight can you put up as a small development team working on an emulator?
How many years do you fight the mega-corp with virtually unlimited money? How much does all those lawyers fees tally up to?
Of course they rolled over. EVEN IF THEY’RE RIGHT, it’s going to be years and years of lawyers. It’s going to be hundreds of thousands of dollars of money spent to defend this. Multiple years of wasted income.
If I was a billionaire and came to your house and made a claim to something under threat of burying you legally. What would your response be? How much could you resist before you have to settle and walk away from it? This happens literally ALL the time. Very few people win.
Yuzu is/was woefully unequipped to handle the situation. They “caved” so quickly because they knew they couldn’t win the fight regardless. They’d exhaust all their income and time. The project would get no further development anyway. So rather than handing over all their assets, money, time, and future income… They just handed over all their assets and current money and the devs can move on to other projects.
This is obvious and normal. You’re just obtuse.
You literally say they did shit wrong
No. I said the emulator was and is legal. You’re the one using “illegal” like you’re trying to pass the bar. Actions the Yuzu devs took show poor intent. The program itself was perfectly fine. Yuzu accepting donations isn’t illegal either by the way.
Of course they rolled over. EVEN IF THEY’RE RIGHT, it’s going to be years and years of lawyers. It’s going to be hundreds of thousands of dollars of money spent to defend this. Multiple years of wasted income.
And yet others with no income do fight and do win, so what kind of point do you think that’s making here…? Those don’t have the money to waste, and they fight, and win, since they did it right.
They settled because they used an illegal key instead of making their own, which is the only legal way to do this for game preservation.
Incorrect. You had to rip that key for yourself. They never distributed it.
They settled because there’s no winning for them. Even if they’re correct (and they really are) it will be years of litigation… and costs.
They were forced to settle because they publicly talked about playing shit [pre-release] on discord too…
Edit: Found a typo. My bad.
The key they used to make the base engine was ripped from online, not made by them that’s the nails in the coffin right there. They also provided means to publicly available bios keys. They did distribute it, you just had to dig into discord or other means to find it, but it was there.
So they were forced to settle because they did this thing illegally, yet you say they didn’t…? What…?
Proof please. Since it never went to court, nothing like this would have been “found” through the process of discovery. I suspect you’re just making shit up.
Nope, you had to rip your own to use the software.
Users chatting on discord != yuzu doing it.
Nothing about Yuzu itself as a program was illegal. Period. How some of the developers talked in their Discord shows that they were using it for illegal things, which fucked them. Not the application itself.
They were forced to settle because they pirated TOTK ahead of its actual release to allow yuzu to support it, then sold that version that supported it on patreon -> “Made money off it” in nintendo’s eyes. I think it’s fucking stupid that they’re gone, but I’m not surprised, Nintendo happily goes after anything.
So they used illegal keys to test their illegal emulator……… you just agreed to everything I’ve stated.
Nothing illegal was mentioned there on the emulation side. TOTK is a rom in this specific instance. A Rip of a cartridge, which considering how early it was obtained must have been ripped from a cartridge by somebody (probably on the distribution chain or even from someone inside Nintendo). The system keys didn’t change to support that ROM. They were dumb and advertised support for something that they shouldn’t even have which (probably) to Nintendo proves piracy by the devs as they shouldn’t have been able to obtain the rom.
Nothing about this is how YUZU itself operates as a program. It’s not an illegal emulator and you need to stop spouting this nonsense.
For a “legal” emulator making money they sure didn’t put up a fight, I wonder why the other emulators are doing so and without the money that yuzu illegally pulled in? Maybe because yuzu wasn’t what you thought…?
You literally say they did shit wrong, then in the same breath defend them. This is hilarious. For someone who apparently did nothing wrong, they rolled over hella fast, that doesn’t make you question what they actually did…? Here’s the clue, the lawyers told them they were fucked, settle before discovery or you’re worse than screwed. There’s no way to prove any of this obviously, but it’s the only scenario that makes a shred of sense given the circumstances.
So Yuzu, at it’s peak. Was making 45k a month from patreon donations. That’s about 500k a year if that rate would sustain… In reality they were averaging 15-20k a month closer to 200k a year. Then a MASSIVE mega-corp hits you with legal action amounting to 2.4 billion or 12 YEARS of income… Do you put up a fight? How much of a fight can you put up as a small development team working on an emulator?
How many years do you fight the mega-corp with virtually unlimited money? How much does all those lawyers fees tally up to?
Of course they rolled over. EVEN IF THEY’RE RIGHT, it’s going to be years and years of lawyers. It’s going to be hundreds of thousands of dollars of money spent to defend this. Multiple years of wasted income.
If I was a billionaire and came to your house and made a claim to something under threat of burying you legally. What would your response be? How much could you resist before you have to settle and walk away from it? This happens literally ALL the time. Very few people win.
Yuzu is/was woefully unequipped to handle the situation. They “caved” so quickly because they knew they couldn’t win the fight regardless. They’d exhaust all their income and time. The project would get no further development anyway. So rather than handing over all their assets, money, time, and future income… They just handed over all their assets and current money and the devs can move on to other projects.
This is obvious and normal. You’re just obtuse.
No. I said the emulator was and is legal. You’re the one using “illegal” like you’re trying to pass the bar. Actions the Yuzu devs took show poor intent. The program itself was perfectly fine. Yuzu accepting donations isn’t illegal either by the way.
And yet others with no income do fight and do win, so what kind of point do you think that’s making here…? Those don’t have the money to waste, and they fight, and win, since they did it right.