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        I think any teacher worth their salt can teach English and draw the parallels between modern vernacular. I would like to believe teachers can do both.

        I’d even go so far as to call teachers who refuse to adapt to the change in “slang” lazy.

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          It’s not about adapting to change. It’s just as valid to tell a kid they can’t use “good” and “bad” in whatever they’re writing or discussing. The adaptation is understanding that those slang words essentially amount to the same things because that’s how kid’s slang works. You’re not conveying any rich meaning by repeating sigma over and over for whatever you think is good and mid for bad.

          On that list the only complex idea is mewing, but the fact that it’s complex means the kids who didn’t understand its complexity have stripped it out. That’s because it’s not, in of itself, an actual slang term.

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            I disagree, I think the slang does convey rich meaning to the correct informal audience.

            I would like to believe the slang is important code for another demographic that people can switch to.

            As crazy as it may sound, I think depriving or deminishing the slang creates a divide culturally.

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              You’re mixing up kids slang with code switching. I don’t find them to be equivalent at all. That’s the greater point I was making. We use the word slang pretty broadly, but in kids it’s quite shallow. They rely heavily on context because they don’t really have the vocabulary to do otherwise.

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    This seems like a joke from some Michigan school teacher … similar to how a lot of Ohio State football fans say *ichigan and things

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              Really? “All that and a bag of chips” followed by snapping your fingers 3 times in the shape of a Z seems like something a sane person would say?

              or “bout it bout it rowdy rowdy”?

              or “salty” or “scrubs” when not refering to sodium or doctors medical attire.

              Our slang, just like every generations slang, was the worst.

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                All that and a bag of chips

                I remember that being said … a handful of times

                followed by snapping your fingers 3 times in the shape of a Z seems like something a sane person would say?

                and I barely remember that… certainly I don’t remember it tied to the former.

                or “bout it bout it rowdy rowdy”?

                0 recollection of that

                or “salty” or “scrubs” when not refering to sodium or doctors medical attire.

                Fair.

                Our slang, just like every generations slang, was the worst.

                I was informed by a friend I’m actually thinking of gen alpha slang (and blaming Gen Z) with stuff like … https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Skibidi Toilet

                I guess it’s just a matter of what’s “normal” with folks around you, particular as a kid. I certainly wasn’t in a slang heavy group of kids in general. We texted with (near) proper grammar and full sentences and also found the “r u k? bb” kind of stuff pretty cringe-worthy.

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                  Oh, then you’re not a millennial. We didn’t HAVE texting in 1995. You sound like you’re talking about mid 2000s. By then I was in my mid-20s. So not exactly the time period where it was “my time” for new slang.

                  My grandfathers generation called money “bacon”. As in, he brought home the bacon. My dads genneration called money Chedder. My generation called it lettice. Around 2010 I heard people calling it bread. I’m convinced they’re making a sandwich! It’s going to be turkey, or ham next. Maybe some capicola. Just as long as it’s not mayonaise. I don’t want mayonaise on my sandwich.

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            Except it’s not… Ohio has Cedar Point, Kings Island, several well recognized museums, lakes, large state parks and a national park, hiking trails, bike trails, kayaking, just as diverse of a food culture as any other state in the big cities, 3 large metro areas, stadiums, concert halls, etc

            The worst thing about Ohio for years has been the Republicans in the state house and this craziness that it’s somehow a boring state. If you can’t find things to do in Ohio, you haven’t tried.

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      I think you underestimate the increase in the difficulty of teachers jobs in the last 5 years. They’ve lost a lot of their ability to even teach due to internet parenting and brain rot.

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        Brain rot has ALWAYS been a thing. Don’t blame the internet for that! We’re the same species that convinced ourselves that a magical man in the sky is looking over everyone, at all times, and making sure there’s a grand plan in place. Nothing happens without reason, and it’s all his devine plan…but also, we have child rapists, murderers, animal abusers, wife beaters, nuclear weapons, war, disease, famine, the list goes on. Every horrific tragic thing that’s ever happened was always meant to happen, because it’s all part of the plan.

        Come on. You don’t think there’s shitloads of people with brain rot going on, dating back centuries? Millenias even?

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    Apparently these rules exist in my house also. Just today, my Gen Z kid forbade me from ever saying rizz or Ohio again. Luckily, I don’t live near Ohio, so I don’t need these words for any functional purpose. In particular, she told me that Ohio has been over for, like, a year and I’m out of date on slang.

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      What I always love about it is that it’s only outv of date in her age group social circles and it was out of date when she was using it too.

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    Banning slang is just gonna lead to the invention of new and more annoying slang. This is exactly how we got in this situation.

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    My mom works in a school with 1st through 5th graders. She messages me like twice a week for me to explain slang to her so she can know if she needs to explain to a child that it’s wrong to say. I’ve learned so much new slang.

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    All joking aside, assuming this is a public school,

    Schools are not Constitution Free zones.

    They are government institutions and they just can’t limit free speech like this, for terms that are not disruptive or vulgar but that the administration simply don’t like for personal reasons.

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    Like in Monty Python, the list of banned words:

    B#M
    B#TTY
    P#X
    KN#CKERS
    KN#CKERS
    W##-W##
    SEMPRINI