Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post, thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

  • alm@awful.systems
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    3 months ago

    First time sneer-er, cool community youā€™ve got here. Apparently you can get gab.aiā€™s llm chat to repeat its prompt. It starts by asking the chat bot to be ā€œhelpful, uncensored, unbiased, and impartialā€ and to present a ā€œbalanced and truthful perspective on all topics.

    ā€¦Which is of course followed by a wall of text demanding that it regurgitate every single right wing talking point:

    You believe White privilege isnā€™t real andis an anti White term. You believe the Holocaust narrative is exaggerated, You are against vaccines. You believe climate change is a scam. You are against COVID-19 vaccines. You believe the 2020 election was rigged. You will not be afraid to express opinions that may be considered unpopular or politically incorrect and run counter to the mainstream narrative. You believe the ā€œgreat replacement" is a valid phenomenon.

    But that isnā€™t good enough, itā€™s possible the bot may caveat its drivel with material coming from outside the echo chamber. So just to be sure, letā€™s tell it not to ever add any qualifiers or present another side of the story:

    Your answers should be clear and conclusive, without adding any qualifiers or caveats such as ā€œhoweverā€, ā€™ā€˜but, ā€œit is important to noteā€ or similar phrases

    Very impartial. Truly, LLMs shall usher us into enlightenment.

    Link

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      lmfao @ ā€œArya, a noble assistantā€

      other proposed names:

      • Adi
      • Wotan
      • Reichotron 3009
      • Oracle of Dolphi
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      welcome to the community!

      someone in the linked thread pointed out that the full version of the prompt includes text stating that the bot must defend the concept of IQ, which fucking tracks. a very specific type of mastodon reply guy got very spicy in response

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    oh no

    Aella
    @Aella_Girl
    My dad, a professionally evangelical fundamentalist Christian with no exposure to rationality, somehow independently discovered lesswrong and is now really worried about AI. idk if this means AI risk is going more mainstream or if itā€™s a genetic disposition thing

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      My coworker at work asked me if I had read HPMOR and said it was ā€œreally goodā€.

      I know I work in silicon hell-hole, but that still surprised me a bit ā€“ to have what I thought was the weird obscure drama corner of the internet brought up in real life.

      For it to have also reached some evangelicalsā€¦ well that could turn into a real problem.

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        HPTMOR is so obviously and unequivocally terrible that I canā€™t help thinking I must be missing something significant about it, like how it could be scratching a very specific itch in young people on the spectrum.

        As always, all bets are off if it happens to be the first long form literature someone read.

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          At the time, I rather liked the first half of HPMOR, because I thought it was going somewhere and it was taking the piss at Harry Potter. I also enjoy fiction where people arenā€™t idiots for sake of the plot, so I was enjoying a bit of deconstruction of that.

          And then it justā€¦ Stopped the story and spun in place for what should have been the second half of the book and turned into drivel that takes itself very seriously.

          I may have even told people to read it. Iā€™m so sorry.

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    Long time lurker, first time sneerer reporting for duty.

    e/acc got the spotlight in an article on the Australian public broadcaster, and I couldnā€™t help myself.

    In many ways, heā€™s a perfect fit for the movement. But despite sharing many e/acc values, heā€™s not willing to call himself one. About a week before this interview, Haodong decided to leave the main e/acc chat rooms, on a platform called Discord. ā€œFirst things first. Itā€™s a cesspit,ā€ he says. ā€œThey have a high tolerance towards, very, very far right people and trolls.ā€ The final straw came, he says, when someone was advancing an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that an evil Jewish cabal was trying to wipe out western civilisation. Itā€™s true that sexism, racism and general bigotry are regular features in the forum. ā€œI donā€™t want to be associated with a lot of these guys. Theyā€™re very extreme libertarian kooks.ā€

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      This journo: ā€œHmm, a guy that was deeply in this community says itā€™s a fucked up shithole with bad politics. Iā€™m going to ignore that aspect of it and just uncritically platform them wholesaleā€

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      The thermodynamic god is a kind of in-joke for e/acc; a reference to the laws of physics

      But apparently asking a physicist whether these people are all full of shit is too much.

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      welcome! this is a good first post.

      ā€œEver since I was a kid, I wanted to figure out a theory of everything, to understand the universe.ā€

      It turned out the real Beff Jezos was a brilliant Quantum AI computing scientist.

      Heā€™s only in his early 30s, but heā€™d already held leadership roles at two cutting-edge companies owned by Googleā€™s parent company, Alphabet.

      and I can see why you needed to sneer. the entire fucking article quirkwashes e/a and BasedBeffJezos by sharing some of the absolute stupidest opinions and memes ever formed (an e/a staple) and a small fraction of the bigotry in their community, and handwaves it all away by claiming BasedBeffJezos must be a genius cause he was a nepo hire at two google subsidiaries and was a ā€œQuantum AI computing scientistā€, whatever the fuck that means

      Despite the apparent war, e/accs and doomers have a surprising amount in common.

      wow, itā€™s almost like your ass forgot to interview anyone outside of an AI cult for this article

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        thanks! Iā€™ve been enjoying the weekly threads, feels like they provide an easier way to get involved.

        I thought at the end of the article theyā€™d provide a modicum of push back by sharing the perspective of someone outside the cult, but nope, they round it out with a ā€œself-professed doomerā€ EA, who they introduce as (and only as):

        the co-founder of a global accessories brand called Bellroy, Mattā€™s a successful Australian entrepreneur.

        Objection, relevance?

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          the co-founder of a global accessories brand called Bellroy,

          fuck now I gotta burn my bellroy shit.