If understanding how things work is what makes a person superior
Didn’t say that
you probably don’t want to be shitting on it
Didn’t do that
accuse people of shit they aren’t doing, like say…. sUpPoRtiNG gEnoCiDe! […] casting aspersions at others
Didn’t do that either, see my last reply to this thread
what seems to be a bunch of smug and arrogant people sitting on high,
Tell me how you’re not doing that same exact thing
someone that is doing their best to ensure we keep our democracy.
No they’re not
What I see, are people is the democratic party willing to throw away votes over single-issue protests
FTFY
most of them have shown not to even understand.
Again, you’re assuming your understanding is better than anyone else’s and not colored by billion dollar, lifelong propaganda campaigns, manufacturing consent to enact bloody imperialism on the rest of the world and keep the (lucrative for private capital) war machine turning, rather than any actual history of the conflict in palestine or actual material plan to “protect democracy” here at home.
I’m not going to apologize to you for paying attention.
Hilarious! It’s a badge of honor to have a socialists compartmentalize and pick apart your comments with their notes and insufferable smug corrections.
If you stop reading me and those objecting to genocide like adversaries instead of potential allies, and move past the monkey brain telling you to fear fear fear the unknown, you might find you agree with the vast majority of what we’re saying. You might find it in yourself at least to resist the urge to alienate voters that are paying attention and care enough to find such a legitimate objection, mobilize for protests, and organize a vote large enough that it threatens the power of the establishment (only if they do not make a good faith attempt to meet these voters’ demands, of course, which shows how little faith you have in the power of organizing, which calls into question your plan for after the election, but that’s besides my point)
I disagreed with third party and non-votes myself at first, but then I saw how people like you treated others simply for finding their voices and using them to stand up for justice. I saw that what you are saying does not line up with the realities of the democratic platform, that it didn’t 4 years ago either, and that the democrats aren’t really promising anything that I could use to argue with undecided voters. I asked myself how progress could ever happen if this is how I am compelled to treat those pushing for it, and I could not find an answer. I couldn’t beat them, so I joined them.
I realized you actually might not have it all figured out if your only means of recruiting these people to vote for the Democrats, again people that care and argue with very reasonable logic, is to shout them down and silence them with deeply and nakedly flawed talking points. All while expending energy that you could be directing at someone with any power to change things and to capture that vote.
We’ve been through the same shit with climate change and countless other examples. The “invisible hand of the free market” is bullshit, you cannot make systemic change with individual action and no amount of shouting at people and following them around to brigade their posts will change that. It has to come from the top, and the only way we can influence the top is as a collective.
It’s not being “smug” or any of the things you’ve said I’ve done, you just aren’t able to find any good argument to the contrary so you attack the way I come off to you. I’m disagreeing with you on something you have strong feelings about, so I come off as an adversary and you project adversarial traits onto me which, to be clear, are not there.
Well with the way you argue, projecting your own actions onto the other person and not producing any argument of substance, this must happen quite a bit, and you must be a very proud and joyful person. Good for you.
lol
Didn’t say that
Didn’t do that
Didn’t do that either, see my last reply to this thread
Tell me how you’re not doing that same exact thing
No they’re not
FTFY
Again, you’re assuming your understanding is better than anyone else’s and not colored by billion dollar, lifelong propaganda campaigns, manufacturing consent to enact bloody imperialism on the rest of the world and keep the (lucrative for private capital) war machine turning, rather than any actual history of the conflict in palestine or actual material plan to “protect democracy” here at home.
Neither will I
Never said it was and I agree.
Hilarious! It’s a badge of honor to have a socialists compartmentalize and pick apart your comments with their notes and insufferable smug corrections.
I always love it when this happens.
If you stop reading me and those objecting to genocide like adversaries instead of potential allies, and move past the monkey brain telling you to fear fear fear the unknown, you might find you agree with the vast majority of what we’re saying. You might find it in yourself at least to resist the urge to alienate voters that are paying attention and care enough to find such a legitimate objection, mobilize for protests, and organize a vote large enough that it threatens the power of the establishment (only if they do not make a good faith attempt to meet these voters’ demands, of course, which shows how little faith you have in the power of organizing, which calls into question your plan for after the election, but that’s besides my point)
I disagreed with third party and non-votes myself at first, but then I saw how people like you treated others simply for finding their voices and using them to stand up for justice. I saw that what you are saying does not line up with the realities of the democratic platform, that it didn’t 4 years ago either, and that the democrats aren’t really promising anything that I could use to argue with undecided voters. I asked myself how progress could ever happen if this is how I am compelled to treat those pushing for it, and I could not find an answer. I couldn’t beat them, so I joined them.
I realized you actually might not have it all figured out if your only means of recruiting these people to vote for the Democrats, again people that care and argue with very reasonable logic, is to shout them down and silence them with deeply and nakedly flawed talking points. All while expending energy that you could be directing at someone with any power to change things and to capture that vote.
We’ve been through the same shit with climate change and countless other examples. The “invisible hand of the free market” is bullshit, you cannot make systemic change with individual action and no amount of shouting at people and following them around to brigade their posts will change that. It has to come from the top, and the only way we can influence the top is as a collective.
It’s not being “smug” or any of the things you’ve said I’ve done, you just aren’t able to find any good argument to the contrary so you attack the way I come off to you. I’m disagreeing with you on something you have strong feelings about, so I come off as an adversary and you project adversarial traits onto me which, to be clear, are not there.
Well with the way you argue, projecting your own actions onto the other person and not producing any argument of substance, this must happen quite a bit, and you must be a very proud and joyful person. Good for you.