What you’re saying makes no sense. Ukraine is backed by the west and that’s a good thing. Unfortunately only out of geopolitical interest and not because of the atrocities Russia is committing in their illegal invasion of Ukraine.
I care about human rights, that’s why I condemn both Russia and the west. You have an agenda that’s why you’re apologetic towards the settler colonial apartheid genociders.
If Ukraine had done to russia half of what hamas and hezbollah have done to Israel, nobody would be rushing to Ukraine’s defense, like nobody rushed to Iraq’s defense.
Human rights can at most make you neutral about Israel vs its opponents, because none of Israel’s opponents give a crap about human rights either. Not the case with Ukraine, they at most match russian escalation.
Israel, despite being captured by fucking brutal idiots right now (whereas before Oct7, bibi was eventually going to jail, gee thanks hamas), has always faced some existential threat of some kind, whereas russia never faced any realistic threat from anyone and still brag about their willingness to break all rules for “russian greatness”.
You are missing the point. This conflict did not start on October 7 and not with the founding of Hamas or Hezbollah. This conflict started with the colonization, ethnic cleansing, dispossession, rape of Palestinians and countless other crimes against humanity committed by the Zionist settlers.
And this conflict will only end with the decolonization of Palestine with Palestinians having equal rights in a democratic country that acknowledges and compensates for the Nakba that Palestinians have suffered through and respects the right to return of Palestinian refugees.
In the course of that we’re gonna need something similar to the Nuremberg trials and a de-Zionisation of the population. Needless to say Israelis will have the right to stay, but they need to abandon Zionism. Israelis won’t like this, because they have to give up their ethnic superiority beliefs and their apartheid state. And I have a hunch that you also won’t like to hear this, but this is the only way to resolve this issue once and for all.
Maybe, but you are missing a point too. Even if it was a mistake to create Israel in hindsight (the world was very different just after 1945), the fact is that there are millions of people who live there, call the place home and will do anything to keep what they have.
Good luck “making them disappear” by basing all your reasoning on dismissing them as zionists and a settler state who cannot possibly feel like they truly belong there.
The best you can get is a palestinian state and expulsion of settlers from the West Bank, but for that you need assurances that Iran or anyone else won’t be placing missiles 20km away from any major Israeli city, which anyone who thinks like you will never be able to guarantee, because of what you believe.
Now compare that to russia, largest country on Earth, with infinite resources, enough nukes to destroy every major capital, huge strategic depth (less than the US, more than most countries) acting like they are the victim against a country that committed the crime of not submitting to their influence and then annexing 5 Israels’ worth of their land.
What you’re saying makes no sense. Ukraine is backed by the west and that’s a good thing. Unfortunately only out of geopolitical interest and not because of the atrocities Russia is committing in their illegal invasion of Ukraine.
I care about human rights, that’s why I condemn both Russia and the west. You have an agenda that’s why you’re apologetic towards the settler colonial apartheid genociders.
If Ukraine had done to russia half of what hamas and hezbollah have done to Israel, nobody would be rushing to Ukraine’s defense, like nobody rushed to Iraq’s defense.
Human rights can at most make you neutral about Israel vs its opponents, because none of Israel’s opponents give a crap about human rights either. Not the case with Ukraine, they at most match russian escalation.
Israel, despite being captured by fucking brutal idiots right now (whereas before Oct7, bibi was eventually going to jail, gee thanks hamas), has always faced some existential threat of some kind, whereas russia never faced any realistic threat from anyone and still brag about their willingness to break all rules for “russian greatness”.
You are missing the point. This conflict did not start on October 7 and not with the founding of Hamas or Hezbollah. This conflict started with the colonization, ethnic cleansing, dispossession, rape of Palestinians and countless other crimes against humanity committed by the Zionist settlers.
And this conflict will only end with the decolonization of Palestine with Palestinians having equal rights in a democratic country that acknowledges and compensates for the Nakba that Palestinians have suffered through and respects the right to return of Palestinian refugees.
In the course of that we’re gonna need something similar to the Nuremberg trials and a de-Zionisation of the population. Needless to say Israelis will have the right to stay, but they need to abandon Zionism. Israelis won’t like this, because they have to give up their ethnic superiority beliefs and their apartheid state. And I have a hunch that you also won’t like to hear this, but this is the only way to resolve this issue once and for all.
Maybe, but you are missing a point too. Even if it was a mistake to create Israel in hindsight (the world was very different just after 1945), the fact is that there are millions of people who live there, call the place home and will do anything to keep what they have.
Good luck “making them disappear” by basing all your reasoning on dismissing them as zionists and a settler state who cannot possibly feel like they truly belong there.
The best you can get is a palestinian state and expulsion of settlers from the West Bank, but for that you need assurances that Iran or anyone else won’t be placing missiles 20km away from any major Israeli city, which anyone who thinks like you will never be able to guarantee, because of what you believe.
Now compare that to russia, largest country on Earth, with infinite resources, enough nukes to destroy every major capital, huge strategic depth (less than the US, more than most countries) acting like they are the victim against a country that committed the crime of not submitting to their influence and then annexing 5 Israels’ worth of their land.