• Rinox@feddit.it
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    3 months ago

    I was with you until the last sentence. Removing the Israeli state “from the river to the sea” as you say, would mean another genocide. I guess at the end of the day, it’s always ok to commit a genocide, but only if it’s your side committing it, eh?

    The real solution is to create two states, one for the Jews, one for the Palestinians, create a well-defined border and stop it with the holy wars, stop it with the persecutions, stop it with the genocides, stop it with the forced resettlement, stop it with terror attacks, stop it with the bombings and stop it with religions altogether.

    Everyone has the right to live, so just live and let live

    • space_comrade [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      3 months ago

      Removing the Israeli state “from the river to the sea” as you say, would mean another genocide.

      You’re really telling on yourself with that sentence. Zionist delusional fears have always been pure projection.

    • CindyTheSkull [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Removing the Israeli state “from the river to the sea” as you say, would mean another genocide.

      No it fucking wouldn’t. Completely dismantling the STATE of Israel, a terroristic settler-colonizer project, would not necessitate a genocide in any way and by pretending it does, you’re doing the propaganda work for the actual genocidaires.

      I guess at the end of the day, it’s always ok to commit a genocide, but only if it’s your side committing it, eh?

      Stfu with your false equivalency bullshit. Let’s use the stolen house analogy that was used elsewhere in this thread because it is apt. If a group of armed assholes comes into your house and starts killing off your family, claiming your house as their own, your doing everything within your power to get them back out of your house is not committing a crime at all, let alone one that is equivalent to the crime they are currently perpetrating against you.

      The real solution is to create two states, one for the Jews, one for the Palestinians, create a well-defined border

      Consider again the analogy above and ask yourself if the real solution is letting those who came in your house and killed your family have their own kitchenette, bathrooms, and bedrooms in your house, just with new walls. When they’ve been saying the whole time (as they were killing your family) that that’s all they actually wanted to do.

      The following is from: https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/the-two-state-solution-is-the-only-way-forward/ which you should read in full.

      Is the two-state solution the only viable solution?

      Viable for whom and for what?

      The two-state solution is inadequate to right historical wrongs, as it focuses on the pre-1967 borders as a starting point, which are in themselves a product of the colonization of Palestine, and not the root cause of it. It is thus preoccupied with finding solutions to symptoms, rather than dare address the root cause, which is Zionist settler colonialism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

      This automatically means that Palestinians must relinquish any rights or hopes for their millions of refugees, and it also means that Palestinians must relinquish their rights to live in over 80% of the land they were ethnically cleansed from. Consequently, resource distribution, from water to fertile land, will be heavily stacked in Israel’s favor.

      Shortly put, the two-state solution is more interested in maintaining Israel’s colonial gains and artificial demographic aspirations, and lending them legitimacy, rather than seeking justice for the Palestinians in any form.

      You should really go ahead and read the other myths discussed there too.

      stop it with the holy wars, stop it with the persecutions, stop it with the genocides, stop it with the forced resettlement, stop it with terror attacks, stop it with the bombings

      Only one “side” is doing all that and is the only one that has the power to immediately stop doing all of that. Instead, it keeps doing all of that. I wonder why it hasn’t stopped. thonk

      and stop it with religions altogether.

      Seriously? You are a clown. And I say that as an atheist myself.

      Everyone has the right to live, so just live and let live

      Oh, just give peace a chance, right? My god liberals are so fucking vapid. This is not a situation with two sides of equivalent means and committing equivalent atrocities with an equivalent power to stop the violence. It is extremely asymmetric in every sense, including the fact that one side is currently conducting an open genocide against the other which is disproportionately made up of children. I would guarantee that most of the Palestinian people would do just about anything to be able to live and let live but Israel will not have that - they never have and they never will, which is the nature of all settler-colonial projects which you clearly don’t understand.