Yeah, I’d have to oppose you on that suggestion. Vigilante justice is rarely effective. It’s perfectly functional as is, where users can identify anonymous mod actions that they disagree with, and then raise the issue with other moderators/admins, who can deal with the issue.
Even if users could publicly see the mod names, the proper response is still to contact the admin if you believe the mod is abusing their power. Which you can already do right now. So the only change would be that users would start DMing mods abusively and making meta posts about mod decisions that would ultimately be far more dramatic and far less effective than simply reporting the behavior to the relevant authority (admin or senior mod) and letting them deal with it internally.
I think that it would make sense to deanonymize them and allow users to look them up in the modlog, this is because the data on who did what is still shared with other servers, so even if we don’t choose to do it, they still have and it doesn’t really make sense to hide who did it on our frontend when it can still be seen plain and publicly. It is beneficial though for users to be able to look up the mod actions of a specific moderator from the frontend. They can then confirm the suspicions that a specific mod is abusing their power. That’s not vigilante justice, it’s just making people more aware of the facts, and possibly being aware to avoid communities modded by those specific people.
These are some good points, I can’t really disagree with them. Transparency and equal access to information is usually a worthwhile goal.
It’s possible that I may be coming from a biased perspective as an admin who can already view modlog and sees this causing plenty of drama down the road, as opposed to purely looking at the pros/cons for an average user. I’m interested to see how the Agora discussion goes.
Thanks.
Yeah, I’d have to oppose you on that suggestion. Vigilante justice is rarely effective. It’s perfectly functional as is, where users can identify anonymous mod actions that they disagree with, and then raise the issue with other moderators/admins, who can deal with the issue.
Even if users could publicly see the mod names, the proper response is still to contact the admin if you believe the mod is abusing their power. Which you can already do right now. So the only change would be that users would start DMing mods abusively and making meta posts about mod decisions that would ultimately be far more dramatic and far less effective than simply reporting the behavior to the relevant authority (admin or senior mod) and letting them deal with it internally.
I think that it would make sense to deanonymize them and allow users to look them up in the modlog, this is because the data on who did what is still shared with other servers, so even if we don’t choose to do it, they still have and it doesn’t really make sense to hide who did it on our frontend when it can still be seen plain and publicly. It is beneficial though for users to be able to look up the mod actions of a specific moderator from the frontend. They can then confirm the suspicions that a specific mod is abusing their power. That’s not vigilante justice, it’s just making people more aware of the facts, and possibly being aware to avoid communities modded by those specific people.
These are some good points, I can’t really disagree with them. Transparency and equal access to information is usually a worthwhile goal.
It’s possible that I may be coming from a biased perspective as an admin who can already view modlog and sees this causing plenty of drama down the road, as opposed to purely looking at the pros/cons for an average user. I’m interested to see how the Agora discussion goes.
Yeah, I just commented in the discussion on my other account.