• pinkystew@reddthat.com
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    Does Trump not know what a tariff is? Or does he know, and he is deliberately misleading his followers?

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    Just read estimates his tariffs would cost the average household 7600 annually. I told my folks and they didn’t understand why I thought it was funny. I told them they wanted this.

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    3 hours ago

    I posted a meme last week before the election about a lot of my fellow Americans being depressingly ignorant and a bunch of people got pissed off about it.

    I’m just saying…

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      Yeah, a lot has been said about why the ‘Democrats’ failed; sure they were/are imperfect.

      Where are the articles bemoaning our stupid and/or mean citizens who have no curiosity and think being obstinate will work like a time machine? I’m frustrated to hell with apathy of my countrymen.

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        “Democrats” is too vague to be meaningful in this discussion. I do put a lot of blame on the DNC organization for deenergizing their base, but also the working class for not understanding basic economics and being taken by a carpet bagger.

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      Their ignorance is equally as valuable as your knowledge. To them, anyway.

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    Maybe it’s because I took economics as far back as high school, but even just from reading high school history books I knew what a Tariff was. How the FUCK did they not know that?

    I am also willing to bet that they will eventually blame the democrats for breaking the system, as they always do.

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      One thing that fascinates me is that Trump’s definition of tariffs seems more like the definition of kickbacks.

      As he was (is?) a landlord, he may also think of it as seeking rent, like how malls get rent from the stores inside.

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        As a foreign asset, I think Trump is just actively performing a proxy war to drain the US of money, power, and resources for Russia. If you think he’s going to be doing anything else - lol.

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      There’s a fair portion of people 21+ that have difficulty playing blackjack because they can’t add to 21. I got asked by a grown man last night what 9+1+3 is.

      You’d be surprised how incompetent some people are.

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        Holy shit. I never put this together.

        Last time I was at a casino I kept asking myself: who honestly thinks any of this is a good idea, or thinks that any of these are “games” in the conventional sense? Now I know.

        Edit: I have also been confronted with people that simply cannot do addition, period. It’s wild.

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          Funny you should mention a casino. Remember when Donald Trump bankrupted multiple casinos? That is actually quite impressive given how often casinos attract people even during recessions as they get stressed and desperate.

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        I worked in customer service for 7 years. I am aware… so very aware…

        To give you an idea, when I worked for Verizon mobile, it was a few times a week that I came across a client who did not know how to hang up their cellphone calls. No joke. It took such a while to get them off the hook it wasn’t funny. And if you ask me why I wouldn’t hang up on them, it was because Verizon had a strict no hang-up policy. You were not allowed to hang up on a client no matter what. It was grounds for immediate termination.

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    Some companies have already said they’re going to pass the extra cost onto consumers, so while the companies will pay more, they’ll make a lot of that back from the consumers that can still afford the products.

    Electronics will probably be the hardest hit, with prices of cell phones, laptops, and game consoles increasing quite a bit.

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    This tells me the information pipe to voters is broken, and hacked.

    People live in their own social media realities. There has always been ignorance, but it’s never been so widely personalized. And Trump and the GoP played it like a fiddle.

    And just watch, the Dems are going to learn precisely nothing from this and campaign like it’s the 1950s again, thinking policy was their problem.

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      Silicon valley: Here is a device that makes it possible to exchange information to everyone, everywhere, immediately.

      GOP: Oh, you mean I can disseminate anything I want? How about lies? That’d be neat.

      Silicon valley: No, not like that.


      One thing that I observed is that the right wing had/has the more progressive campaign, from a technology and media use standpoint. The DNC, on the other hand, was still more or less using the same moves they had back in the 1990’s, relying on extinct concepts like the fairness doctrine, debate performance, and journalistic integrity of news outlets (fact-checks anyone?).

      It’s not just the Overton Window that has moved: our information diet has completely changed too. To win at politics today, the entire landscape has shifted to propaganda, bombast, showmanship, clickbait, and leading the 24/7 news cycle by the nose. You must be louder and more interesting than the other guy. I think it’s possible to play that game ethically though, without disinformation, but what’s clear is that billionaire-owned media isn’t going to do it for you anymore.

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        Silicon Valley is laughing all the way to the bank enabling this.

        They are the root cause, because no one told them they aren’t allowed to rot brains with relentless engagement optimization. Modern politics would still be bad, but it wouldn’t be so apocalyptic without the monsters they built.

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      The sheer stupidity of the dems is kinda astonishing. The reason why Obama won is because he had a goddamn narrative. Yes we can! Change you can believe in! It’s almost like they were onto something… then they did nothing.

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    It’s sad to see that the people that do the most honest work are always being played by people doing the most dishonest one.

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      We could be getting played by some random person on tiktok showing an unsubstantiated claim from another random person.

      I’m not saying it’s definitely fake but don’t just blindly believe this when spreading stories without evidence is the EXACT sort of shit dishonest people do. They’re eating the dogs, etc.

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    And it’s sooo typical of their hyper-inflated personal and national egos:
    They didn’t wonder for one minute why on earth foreign companies would pay up. For the honor or doing business with the greatest country on earth tm? Because they’d have no choice of other buyers, since no other countries has car / computer / whatever manufacturers who’d buy their products instead?

    They. Are. So. Fucking. Insular.

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      It’s simpler than that. They have literally no idea what tax incidence even is, and think the government just decides who the burden falls on.

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      Their

      They

      They

      They being Americans?

      There was another post about how Americans unfairly generalize Russians (or others) for the things their country does, and how hypocritical it is, implying we would get defensive. Well here I am, an American, reacting to my people being generalized:

      Nods

      Agrees

      We are like that, and did this to ourselves.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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        It’s not just Americans, remember the Brexiteers realizing that due to Brexit, they need a visa for their Spanish holiday, and they have to stand in the “rest of the world” line?

        We will see a bunch of “this is not the Brexit I’ve voted for” to come.

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          We will see a bunch of “this is not the Brexit I’ve voted for” to come.

          No, they’ll just continue to blame dems, immigrants, and anyone else under then sun except for their godemporer for the mess they voted themselves into.

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      Life under Trump in 2024 will be orders of magnitude worse than life under him in 2016. It won’t take long for Americans to begin to feel strong consequences of the election result.

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    Guise, I’m struggling. Part of me says…let them all burn for their “fuck around and find out”.

    But I know that isn’t completely right. I just, am, so, angry (and sad).

    Will probably choose the let them burn route.