• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    fuck CSAM, but where do we draw the line?

    let laws regulate society and don’t let government regulate directly.

    for example, instead of banning access to X, outlaw the use of Social media in direct advertising. Make the EU market so hostile towards their business practices they can’t legally operate.

    then, it’s “X” that refuses to operate within the laws we as a people have required, not just an over-reaching autocrat.

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      That’s a bad idea because of how reliant small businesses are on social media advertising. A regulation like that would essentially screw over every business that isn’t rich enough to go to bigger advertising venues.

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        Twitter is not the sole, or even the biggest social media company in Europe. It’s not even in the top 3.

        The advertisement sector will be fine.

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        yes… because businesses are more important than democracies…

        you know, not that long ago these coverless books existed that came out every day. they had stories, news, even comics in them. and you know what? they even had advertisements in them!

        social media is a convenience to business. government is not a social convenience.

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          Businesses are the ones that produce food, medicine, clothes, build houses, print books, provide gas and electricity, build roads, etc. There are businesses that have outlasted monarchies and democracies. I’m not a corpo schmuck but small businesses are the soul of the soul of our society.

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            People Businesses are the ones that produce food, medicine, clothes, build houses, print books, provide gas and electricity, build roads, etc. There are businesses that have outlasted their usefulness monarchies and democracies. I’m not a corpo schmuck but and culture is small businesses are the soul of the soul of our society.

            there, I fixed it.

            the purpose of any business is to be profitable, otherwise it’s a charity. businesses have zero philanthropic goals.

            people make a business profitable. People make the products and services. People consume the product.

            no people, no business.

            no government, no people, no business.

            don’t let greed cloud your judgement.

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              Yes a business usually consists of people and is driven by profit, you sted the obvious, but what is your point?

              Do people buy their vacuums from Dyson Ltd. or from a guy named Kevin?

              It’s not just about profits, it’s about accountability. That’s what the different forms of corporations represent. A singular private person can’t and shouldn’t be held accountable for every product the produce. A business is a layer of protection of limited (Ltd.) accountability. How could anybody be motivated to invent or produce anything if a single miss use of your product that causes any harm (intended or not) could lead to you directly being held responsible and possible going to jail. A business on the other hand usually has limited accountability but is also held to a much higher standard of quality and proof than a private individual ever could.

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                It’s not just about profits, it’s about accountability. That’s what the different forms of corporations represent. A singular private person can’t and shouldn’t be held accountable for every product the produce. A business is a layer of protection of limited (Ltd.) accountability.

                this is laughable. Corporations aren’t being held accountable for anything anymore because they have personhood rights.

                How could anybody be motivated to invent or produce anything if a single miss use of your product that causes any harm (intended or not) could lead to you directly being held responsible and possible going to jail.

                People invent and produce things every day. You’re confusing yourself with mass production at scale.

                A business on the other hand usually has limited accountability but is also held to a much higher standard of quality and proof than a private individual ever could.

                no longer the case. a private individual would be put in jail (like you said) for harming one person with a product. who goes to jail when millions are poisoned by a company? Who maintains that standard of quality and proof? The same government that turns a blind eye when millions of Americans are poisoned?

                But to get back on topic, People empower the business. Without the people, there is no business.

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      Yeah, I don’t think that banning social platforms is a good idea, unless its hosting illegal content. As bad as ““X”” is, banning it could be a slippery slope.

      Although, I don’t think this change.org petition will get far.