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    3 months ago

    Starship Troopers was a far different story in each medium, but I think the movie is much more worthy of your time

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      3 months ago

      There’s also an anime adaptation in 6 episodes, Uchuu no Senshi, made by Bandai. It was directed by Tetsurou Amino (Iria, Macross 7) and the mechas were designed by Kazutaka Miyatake (designer of spaceships and power suits for Macross, Gundam and Battleship Yamato).

      It’s considered an important milestone and a progenitor in the mecha genre. It has a very… anime approach to the adaptation, focusing mostly on the action and scifi with very little of the original drama or politics.

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        3 months ago

        there’s so much different I’d almost consider them related and not an adaptation.

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          3 months ago

          It should be noted that the director explicitly meant the series as a tribute to Heinlein and it was dedicated to him when it launched (Heinlein had died during production) so there was a clear intent.

          That being said it was a mini-series and there was only a limited amount of things they could cram into it. It’s a pretty complex book with a lot of detail.

          There’s also the fact that a faithful adaptation would have been pretty hard to sell to the Japanese public. They have different sensibilities from the Western public and some of the symbolism would have been completely lost on them or appropriated to very different meanings.

          A son who joins the marines and goes to war while regretting the rift with his parents is easy to understand in most markets. Add some cool SciFi imagery and action scenes, a touch of romantic interest, it’s sufficient for 6 episodes.

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      3 months ago

      +1 the movie is pure epic satire

      I do like PKD as an author, I just never quite liked Starship Troopers the book, even though it’s got some nice Forever War vibes to it

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        Probably because Starship Troopers isn’t PKD. It’s Heinlein.

        Kind of funny to imagine what it would have been like if it had been written by PKD. Johny Rico would have spent 1/3 of the book going through a divorce and the troopers would have all been on halucinogens.

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          3 months ago

          oh whoops, I’ve made that mistake for X years then. Solves a mystery too - I hate Heinlein. Stranger in a strange land was dull.

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            The only book of his I’d recommend is The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. It’s quite Anarcho Capitalist, and sexist in places but it’s an interesting revolution story regardless and has some interesting ideas in it

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        3 months ago

        Starship Troopers is Heinlein not Dick, and it’s fascist nonsense. Verhoeven was right to throw the book in the bin after two chapters and the movie rules.

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          3 months ago

          Heinlein experiments with loads of social structures and governments. Starship Troopers is the fascist example, not an example of all his work.

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          It’s been a while since I’ve read it but what was fascist about it? That only people who served got to vote? It was either/or iirc, you could not vote while in the military, only after you left, and if you did you could not return. Not exactly Nazi Germany.

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            Only ex military caste have power because they are the only people who can vote or hold public office.

            There’s this respected teacher guy in it who goes on about how violence solves everything, hero’s main trajectory is for him to become really on board with that setup. Bunch of capital punishment, whipping etc.

  • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]@hexbear.net
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    I think you could make a credible argument that some of the Harry Potter books are worse than the movies. The best example that comes to mind is making fun of Hermione for wanting to free slaves, and the other characters claiming being slaves is in their nature or something. If you had only watched the movies instead, you’d get to see the slaves are miserable, most of the good team characters don’t own slaves, and Harry Potter tricks a slave owner into freeing their slave.

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    This may be unpopular but I was deeply disappointed in Shawshank Redemption when I read it. The movie is top tier.

    Edit: In retrospect this doesn’t really answer your question as you asked about bad movies with a worse book and Shawshank is definitely not a bad film.

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    50 Shades of Grey.

    The film is silly and mediocre but the book is next level terrible.

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    It’s tv series not a movie but The Three Body Problem. The ideas are poorly thought out ass pulls to setup the weirdly specific situations the wittier wants.

    At least the show makes the characters more interesting.

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      Agreed, most of the characters in the book are so flat, and only do things because the plot needed them to do that thing.

      The Netflix series managed to make the character’s motivations seem more believable which I appreciated.

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    Ready player one, though to be fair I didn’t finish either version. I feel like percentage-wise I made it further through the movie, but only because the movie is less than 2 hours long. I made it to the 2nd chapter of the 2nd part and couldn’t take the masturbatory prose any more. There’s no self insertion on one side of the scale, Mary sue-ing in the middle, and ready player one sits on the far side of the scale.

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      I read the whole book twice. Its bad. The first time was fun because I was just looking for the pop-culture references, but thats the only kinda good thing the book has. The second time I focused more on the story and the characters and its just bad. There are no likeable characters, but you are supposed to like the main protagonist who is an antisocial creep. The setting makes no sense and the plot is just there to move to another place to show off more references stacked onto each other

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    3 months ago

    Battlefield Earth. The movie is awful but it’s a much smaller time commitment than the book.

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      3 months ago

      I’m not gonna go claiming that the Eragon books deserve a prize, but I loved them as a kid, and comparing them as equals to that movie is bordering on insanity.

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      Eragon was my first foray into proper swords and sorcery fantasy after Harry Potter.

      Are the books really that bad in your opinion? By no means do they reinvent the wheel, but I enjoyed the magic system and enjoyed the aspect of Dragon + Rider and that relationship we see between the two.

      I haven’t read much other Fantasy besides LotR and Stormlight Archive, but I enjoy the Inheritance Cycle.