• joeyv120@ttrpg.network
    2·
    6 months ago

    The Israeli government is murdering children and committing war crimes, and they’re upset about what The Onion has to say about it.

      • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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        6 months ago

        They’re also full on slaughtering the press too.

        So a rundown of what they’re doing

        1. Killing 2 civilians for every 1 Hamas
        2. Killing children (50% of Gaza is under 18)
        3. Killing journalists

        They’re 100% correct Hamas needs to be wiped out because Hamas wants Jews to not exist, but goddamn the ends to not justify the means.

        They’ve lost the fucking plot.

        Mark my words anti-Semitism is going to continue it’s crescendo and it’s 100% because of the IDF and that asshat running Israel.

        • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml
          1·
          6 months ago

          Hamas charter excerpt.
          16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

          • GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            6 months ago

            Good to know they uphold this text by not publicly murdering and raping random civilians in their homes and proudly sharing the video.

  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
    1·
    6 months ago

    The ironic thing is, conflating any and all criticism of the state of Israel with anti-semitism could be argued as anti-semitic itself, because to suggest that jewish people in general and the Israeli state/military are one in the same such that criticism of the later is also hateful towards the former, is also to suggest that jewish people as a whole are responsible for the actions of Israel.

    As cultural groups as a whole are inherently unable to be guilty of crimes (since even if a large number of people belonging to one commit some crime, such a group will also contain members that cannot be guilty of it, like young children), but states and similar entities, being organized and capable of decision-making, can be, then any attempt to link the moral culpability of a state and that of a cultural group is inherently to apply unfair accusations to that group, and thus hateful to it.

  • Gerowen@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    6 months ago

    I think a big part of it, here in the US, is besides all the post WW2 sentiment, a lot of folks here in the bible belt literally think they are God’s chosen people, and so whatever they do is right by God, no matter how terrible. I recently showed up for jury duty and was speaking to a lady there about her son who had joined the Marine Corps. and thought he might get deployed, and she said, I shit you not, “At least he’ll be fighting for God’s people”.

    I’ve seen antisemitism. I’ve been in online communities that slowly devolved into rat caricatures and conspiracy theories about how Jews are out to destroy the world. So I know that modern antisemitism persists and is a thing to watch out for. But it’s not antisemitic to admit that Zionist Israel is butchering innocent people because they want to claim all of Palestine for themselves, and that the west is too weak willed to do anything about it for fear of being called antisemitic, or going against “God’s chosen people”. That’s not antisemitism, it’s an objective, observable fact.

  • Vytle@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Bro can i just say that i fucking hate that anti-semetic is even an argument used when someone demonstrates support for Hamas? it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.

    • SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world
      1·
      6 months ago

      I think there is a very good argument of antisemitism if you support Hamas. There is no argument for antisemitism if you support Palestinians.

    • Custodian1623@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Colloquially yeah it makes a lot of sense to say Hamas is antisemitic, the word means hatred for Jews regardless of the etymology of ‘semite’. Take it up with marriam-webster, not the people correctly using the modern definition of the word

      • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml
        0·
        6 months ago

        Hamas Charter, excerpt.
        16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.