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This is big. Bluesky is getting lots of traction with normies who want off Twitter. Mastodon and pleroma and pixelfed all about to become much more discoverable
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I dunno. I still posts from the Bluesky bridge getting boosts. This might not be as bad Threads.
This might not be as bad Threads.
Tbd but bluesky is at least pretending for now that it is user focused.
So this can be symbiotic
Isn’t that part of the benefit of federating, too? If Bluesky turns heel, just cut it back off again.
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Why would they protest and make it opt in? The whole point of the fediverse is that your posts are completely public. Literally anyone and anything can scrape it, your server would hand it to them on a silver platter. That’s the point.
I’ve once been downvoted to oblivion for not defederating threads.com before it even went online. Fediverse people are weird.
Eh, I think rejecting anything associated with Meta seems perfectly normal for people trying to get away from corporate social media.
And I think letting everyone decide for themselves how they run their instances and who they federate with is an important cornerstone of the fediverse. I’m more than fine with people not wanting to interact with threads. But what happens on my tiny instance with me as the only active user shouldn’t be cause for outrage.
I fully agree with that. Personal choice is a big part of what the fediverse is a big part of what the fediverse is about, after all.
My unpopular opinion is that we should federate with threads. “Embrace extend extinguish” would depend on existing fediverse users migrating to threads. Quite frankly, I don’t see that happening. In fact, if there’s no federation, there’s more incentive to use threads to have a presence.
Embrace extend extinguish, if done on the fediverse, may cause an uptick in signups on other instances, and when extinguished, a portion of those users would leave.
With the Google Chat / XMPP thing, people were using Google Chat, had xmpp support, it was cool, then google pulled the rug so users seemingly dropped.
I don’t think Meta has enough goodwill at all to even convince it’s own users to return to it’s platforms these days. I think Bluesky is more of a risk as it claims to be decentralised to rope people in, but isn’t.
Because it happens everytime. They accuse people of “scraping the fediverse”.
Exactly. It is a huge, authoritarian, corporate platform that can absolutely ruin the fedi if it ever turns against us (think ads, bad moderation, nudging campaigns, etc).
Its not at all as black and white as threads is but it is still a huge problem.
Watch then deny it cos it will threaten their market capture lol
They’ll say something like “can’t handle the scale”
You shouldn’t expect full interoperability with this alone! At most, you should expect that your public posts get shared with your followers on Mastodon (i.e. an outbox)
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That’s the benefit of Bluesky being totally centralized, not built with any capability for federation: When they decide to add some, they can hardly fail to see that it’s best to go with ActivityPub.
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Hmm, let’s see if I remember the terminology correctly:
Client apps have nothing to do with it, obviously.
Alternate appviews have nothing to do with it, except in that they’d presumably need to work with whatever form of atproto federation exists, if any did.
Alternate relays aren’t federated unless there’s some protocol for routing messages between them — such as ActivityPub.
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Let me just ask the less technical and more important questions:
- If BSky goes out of business and shuts down their servers, will these continue to function?
- Does BSky still have any control at all over moderation?
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Right… it did take me a minute to remember how the relays work. Well, when there are a few hundred of them we’ll see how it goes.
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Really? I thought there were only two. How are the small ones able to afford the bandwidth to monitor everything from every PDS?
because hosting a full-network relay is super cheap, including bandwidth. there are multiple people who are running full-network relays (monitoring and relaying everything from every PDS) for less than 30USD per month
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Really cool honestly. How big it is is probably predicated on if Bluesky enabled it for PDS’es on bsky.social.
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