• protist@mander.xyz
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    1 month ago

    What you’ve cited here is a legal argument the DNC used in court as a defendant in a lawsuit. That doesn’t change the fact that Hillary Clinton got more votes than Sanders in 2016, which literally happened. I voted for Sanders and thought he had a better shot at beating Trump, and thought Clinton was a terrible candidate. That doesn’t change the fact that a ton of Democratic voters preferred Clinton. Women in particular were very excited about the possibility of a woman president. I knew a ton of people who voted for her over Sanders and who were excited to do so.

    Either way, the superdelegate system that locked in Clinton’s nomination was changed after 2016, yet even after Biden beat Sanders fair and square in 2020 you’d still rather think there’s some grand DNC conspiracy instead of the reality that there just aren’t enough voters supporting your preferred candidate.

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      That doesn’t change the fact that Hillary Clinton got more votes than Sanders in 2016, which literally happened.

      No one said it wasn’t what happened…

      That’s not what the lawsuit alleged even…

      It said the DNC influenced the primary

      And the DNC said “so what, primaries don’t even matter, even if Bernie won we could have just not nominated them”.

      It’s not complicated.

      When accused of rigging the primary, their response was it’s legal for them to rig it or even just ignore the results.

      That’s what “blue no matter who” gets you.

      To spell it out perfectly clear (because I’m not replying again):

      Not having any standards besides the letter by someone’s name, get you candidates people won’t vote for, which depresses turnout and allows Republicans to become president.

      When the DNC acts like this, it makes the pool of democratic voters smaller.

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        Lol How did they rig it if Hillary got more votes? Get out of your bubble, dude.

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          Did you just pick a random comment and start reading?

          That explains why you’re so confused, everything is difficult to understand when you strip away all context.

          So you go try and re-read this thread, and see it that’ll help you figure this out

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            Says the one stuck repeating bullshit arguments disproven back in 2016. You’re adding random claims onto the facts. Me cutting to the actual events isn’t removing context. Idk how anyone still thinks Bernie had a chance or that it was stolen from him, unless they live in an isolated bubble with other Bernie bros.

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      They still said “even if he did win, we would run our own guy anyway. Voters and donors be damned.”

      Which is still fascist behavior even if you agree with it.

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          You’ve read it and you know precisely what they said and what they meant (not that it wasn’t straight forward in the first place.)

          Blocking because I don’t owe my time to MAGA types whether blue or red. Take your disingenuous bullshit elsewhere.

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            What are you even talking about about? I never once ever heard someone say (what I can only assume you’re saying since you haven’t clarified anything) that if Sanders won the primary “they” would “still run their own guy.”