• Bonsoir@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    The belief in a hell or in a Limbo kind of prove that paradise is not for everyone. Depends which dogmas you grew up with, at this point.
    About God being sacrificed to himself, it was mainly a way to stop an old tradition of sacrificing goats every year in order to atone for sins. Now people can just say that the Christ already died for that, so they don’t have to act like barbarians and kill poor animals. Which is great, to be fair.

    • Flax@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      5 months ago

      The offer is for everyone, people choose whether or not to take Him up on it

      • Bonsoir@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        “I sell luxury housing for everyone, it’s not my fault if some people are poor!”

        My brother in christ, YOU made poor people.

        • psud@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          I recall something in his favourite part of the Bible about rich men, camels, eye of a needle and heaven

          Anyone surviving in a major western nation and not living on the streets in a place with no welfare is well rich in terms of camels and needle eyes

        • Flax@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          Difference is luxury houses cost money, Jesus does not

        • Flax@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          Within our lifetimes, God reveals Himself to us. It’s the following of the Holy Spirit which leads us to Jesus. However, it’s next to impossible these days for the vast majority of the world’s population to not hear about Jesus. God knows everyone’s hearts. I think this video explains it well. However, basically everyone who has access to the comment I made and this forum has access to the Gospel. It is very much a free offering. It’s also worth realising that missionary work is also important, and there’s a reason why I want people to have another chance to hear about Jesus

      • psud@aussie.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        Catholic dogma (which pre-dates whatever you follow) says unbaptised babies aren’t qualified for heaven, and believers have surreptitiously baptised babies and children of non-Christian background. What good deity punishes or rewards someone for the actions of others?

        What good deity punishes people for not reaching an age where they might be baptised? Especially when the dead baby is dead thanks to His ineffable plan

        What good deity punishes people born before their invention for not knowing about them?

        What good deity punishes people for being born in a country where that deity is unpopular

        But I’m sure your version is softened so good people all get heaven.

        Judaism says you have to be of one of the Jewish tribes. And that pre-dates all Christianity.

            • Flax@feddit.uk
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              5 months ago

              Because the Bible doesn’t mention water Baptism as being a strict requirement for salvation. Such as the thief on the cross. Catholics also hold other unbiblical beliefs such as purgatory, indulgences, masses for the dead, papal infallibility, etc