• joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    Very mild spoilers for ep. 2

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    I was really struck by that scene where Carol is inside Air Force One with the seal of the US government behind her, lecturing a dozen people from the Global South about how they should hate the fact that their lives are now good and free of worry. I’m not going to analyze that too much, but I thought it was a really neat image, a representative from the US lecturing people from the rest of the world on how they should be miserable. I feel like there’s a lot to unpack in that scene.

    • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      3 months ago

      I actually had the opposite reading. I thought it was weird that it was framing a blonde American as the only one who valued individuality while the mostly Asian people didn’t see a downside to the loss of free will.

      • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        That’s an interesting way to see it too. My thought was more along the lines of how funny it was that the American felt like she had the authority to tell people from other parts of the world how to live their lives, and how American individualism and “freedom” is actually the only correct way to experience the world, even though now these people may be experiencing true freedom for the first time, finally unbound by their lack of material wealth.

    • nasezero [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      I think the most significant thing about that scene, at least in regards to how the show is discussed more broadly, is that the show intentionally avoids casting a judgement on Carol either way. It’s totally up to us, the viewers, to take in what we’re shown and decide how we feel about Carol and the rest of the survivor’s behaviors.

      And I think that’s where all this disconnect is coming from; this show is super heavy on visual storytelling, and so you get everyone making their own interpretation of it (it’s about AI, no jk it’s about it’s collectivism, no jk it’s about imperialism, no jk it’s about Hamas picard …) when really it’s just a character profile of these highly imperfect and traumatized people reacting to an absurd high-concept sci-fi event.

      The only thing I can say definitively about the story is that it’s incredibly dialectical. Every character’s actions and attitudes are presented in ways that are entirely reasonable and consistent with the rest of their actions and the story. Half the fun of this show is watching these characters in these absurd situations, reacting in entirely reasonable ways that are still fucking hilarious. For example, Carol spending a whole episode investigating the milk cartons, then rushing over to Diabaté to make a big deal about her “terrifying discovery” only for Diabaté to casually go, “is this about them eating people? Yeah, I know, I just asked them about it. Anyways, here’s a video they gave me in which John Cena explains their militant veganism.” My jaw hurt from laughing. Are the Plurbs fucked up for not even wanting to pick apples? Did Carol just waste a ton of time because she’s too stubborn to understand that she could have just asked, especially given she knew by this point that the Plurbs can’t lie? Yeah, sure, these are all valid questions, but it’s also just fucking hilarious to do all that set up only for Carol to have “Human-Derived Protein” explained to her in detail by John Cena in a video that could have been capped off by the-more-you-know i-cant