“Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90’s Screamo scene. What is known by “Midwest Emo” is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can’t help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
I see your point, and I don’t disagree. It’s just that the tone of that copypasta is giving me war flashbacks to early 2010s punk/metal elitism and hyper-categorization of genres which probably had nothing to do with the prevalence of neo-nazi infiltration efforts
The tone is bad, but I do agree we cant just call 3 very different genres the same thing. I’m willing to give Emo to Sunny Day Real Estate kinda stuff if we can stop using the term skramz and retake screamo
Rites of Spring are great, but the only time anyone talks about them is in reference to how x band is “fake” because RoS did it first and better. And even if that is true, and in some ways it usually is, I doubt the point of their music is to make the bands they influenced look bad.
I know it is a copypasta, but there are like a million articles just like this one, and most that ive seen mention Rites of Spring in shitting on some other group.
Rites of Spring are a weird case because due to being the go to Real Emo band for people to namedrop, because at the time Fugazi and post-hardcore was semi mainstream and there is direct connection via members, so music elitists would cite them cause its the earliest and rarest example they knew of. The other side of the emo split, screamo kinda happened at the same time and was more associated with the crust and grindcore scene and they sound like it. Pitchfork wasnt recommending people listen to Heroin, they were hyped on Fugazi. I think this led to a feedback loop where a lot of later pop punk style emoji bands did take influence directly from Rites of Spring while skipping the history in between.
The meme is just saying the jangly emo stuff is too different to be “real emo”. Ironically enough the first MCR album is definitely inspired by DC emocore
The album slaps from start to finish. If MCR didn’t sign to a major label and disbanded, that album would’ve gained a cult following by the “real emo” 4chaners
It’s a sick album and I think it would have gained a cult following but probably not with Real Emos, they were into Sunny Day Real Estate and shoegazy stuff at the time. MCR takes a bit from a lot of different places, id call em a pop punk band primarily but they have aspects of metal primarily and some goth and a bit of emo musically. Then they also wanted to be Queen. There is for sure some bits inspired by the mess of what was referred to as emoji even prior to them muddying it up even more through no fault of their own. But mostly I hear Sisters of Mercy mixed with Green Day
Linkin park? Uh does he not realize that
“Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90’s Screamo scene. What is known by “Midwest Emo” is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can’t help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
While this copy pasta may be infamous, it is also 100% correct
Correct? Perhaps. Annoying as shit? Definitely.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Have you ever listened to Pg 99 or Cap N Jazz? If not check em out and compare thst to MCR or Sunny Day Real Estate. It is entirely different music
I see your point, and I don’t disagree. It’s just that the tone of that copypasta is giving me war flashbacks to early 2010s punk/metal elitism and hyper-categorization of genres
which probably had nothing to do with the prevalence of neo-nazi infiltration effortsThe tone is bad, but I do agree we cant just call 3 very different genres the same thing. I’m willing to give Emo to Sunny Day Real Estate kinda stuff if we can stop using the term skramz and retake screamo
Rites of Spring are great, but the only time anyone talks about them is in reference to how x band is “fake” because RoS did it first and better. And even if that is true, and in some ways it usually is, I doubt the point of their music is to make the bands they influenced look bad.
I know it is a copypasta, but there are like a million articles just like this one, and most that ive seen mention Rites of Spring in shitting on some other group.
Moss Icon is the better DC emo band.
Rites of Spring are a weird case because due to being the go to Real Emo band for people to namedrop, because at the time Fugazi and post-hardcore was semi mainstream and there is direct connection via members, so music elitists would cite them cause its the earliest and rarest example they knew of. The other side of the emo split, screamo kinda happened at the same time and was more associated with the crust and grindcore scene and they sound like it. Pitchfork wasnt recommending people listen to Heroin, they were hyped on Fugazi. I think this led to a feedback loop where a lot of later pop punk style emoji bands did take influence directly from Rites of Spring while skipping the history in between.
Real emo heads know Husker Du is actually the first emo band
green day are real emo
i like mcr, possibly more than americ anfootball and mineral, but lumping them in with the other two is crazy
The meme is just saying the jangly emo stuff is too different to be “real emo”. Ironically enough the first MCR album is definitely inspired by DC emocore
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HSAXVVl9BUU
oh yeah, this one sounds straight out of the 90s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOLfblOB2e8
The album slaps from start to finish. If MCR didn’t sign to a major label and disbanded, that album would’ve gained a cult following by the “real emo” 4chaners
It’s a sick album and I think it would have gained a cult following but probably not with Real Emos, they were into Sunny Day Real Estate and shoegazy stuff at the time. MCR takes a bit from a lot of different places, id call em a pop punk band primarily but they have aspects of metal primarily and some goth and a bit of emo musically. Then they also wanted to be Queen. There is for sure some bits inspired by the mess of what was referred to as emoji even prior to them muddying it up even more through no fault of their own. But mostly I hear Sisters of Mercy mixed with Green Day
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