• HubertManne@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    no the risk of losing money. are you talking a system where money does not exist as a means of trade?

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        7 months ago

        if a worker loses money they risk becoming a poorer worker. is the worked paid? do they have money? what level of money makes one a capitalist? in your world. I had someone else come along with similar concerns but they seemed to just be talking about corporations which I kinda get then but commerce happens on all levels.

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          7 months ago

          Workers work for wages, Capitalists recieve profits off of ownership. This isn’t “my” world, this is the world.

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            7 months ago

            so workers do not own anything they make profit off of? Like a car they use to do uber rides? in this world. that is what you think? you think that is reality?

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              7 months ago

              Uber drivers are gig workers, and firmly in the Proletariat. They ultimately use and depend on Uber’s infrastructure and Capital. Owning a car for personal use and also using it for your job you work for a wage for does not mean you profit off of ownership in the manner a Capitalist profits off the work of others.

              This is, in fact, reality.

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                7 months ago

                Ill accept it for the arguments sake. How about a homeowner that rents out a room and they only advertised with a sign in the window they bought themselves. They also have a job keep in mind. The rent from the room does not exactly pay all their needs it just offsets the mortgage. Are they workers?

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                  7 months ago

                  Petite bourgeoisie. Capitalists that do not drive enough income to survive without working. It’s a bit muddier than this, with respect to their personal job their power dynamic is clearly Proletarian, but they are attempting to escape that dynamic and become full bourgeois via landlording.

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                    7 months ago

                    ok. so if they did not rent the room and the would be tenant stays homeless then they are good workers or whatever foreign word you use for them. so bad if the one guy has a roof over his head but good if he does not?