• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Direct control = if i could decide that the fishing boat doesnt go out tomorrow or how they do their fishing

      Indirect control = i decide not to eat fish

      You also only have indirect control over plastic straw production, but my point wasnt the “control over” part but the “let people have their small victories” part. If you actively harass people for doing good things, they will stop doing good things.

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        in this case quite a number of people would want plastic straws back because the paper straws has been bringing a significantly worse experience. So yeah they do want this good thing to stop.

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          Do I have “direct control” over the US government because I can withhold my vote come election day?

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            Not much, admittedly, but not eating seafood does a heck of a lot more than not using straws.

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              not eating seafood does a heck of a lot more than not using straws

              which isn’t a justification for trying to invalidate a small victory

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              a “small victory” doesn’t imply a direct, tangible impact

              “direct control over” does

              you’re comparing two things when the point of the original comment is literally that you shouldn’t compare them good job