That is not quite true though. While they indeed still make (2) good car models there are alternatives on the market that can rival them (eg Kia EV4 or Renault Scenic E-tech 89kWh) and those alternatives can do so while actually having real buttons, that you don’t have to take off the eyes from the road just because you want to adjust the A/C or whatever. If you really wanted to leave Tesla, you could. That said, I don’t see the point in selling a perfectly good car in working condition for such reasons. What difference does it make if someone else is driving it and if no one is driving it it is a waste of resources.
The lack of real buttons is hardly the problem with those vehicles. Maybe for some/many people but I find that argument excessively nit-picky. You can adjust temperature perfectly fine in a Tesla without looking. Not that I normally need to touch it at all.
I bought my Tesla in 2022. After 4 years with it, the lack of real buttons and burying controls under touchscreen menus is the primary reason why I’ll never buy another Tesla. When I do replace my Tesla it will be with another EV, but not a Tesla EV.
It seems Chinese vendours are almost as bad as Tesla in this regard. However, European (maybe also South Koreans, I don’t know) largely coming back to physical controls for key features (and also real haptic buttons, not cheapo-touch buttons) though.
That argument carries enough weight that EURONCAP safety rating requires physical buttons for key features:
"Under the Safe Driving section of Euro NCAP’s safety rating, the key driving controls – indicators, windscreen wipers and washer, hazard warning lights, horn and eCall emergency button – should be operated by a direct physical input rather than hidden within a menu on a touchscreen. "
The “it doesn’t effect me” crowd is of the same kind that says, that controlling a phone during driving, doesn’t effect them or that they can drive just as safe after non-excessive alcohol consumption.
When’s the last time you looked?
Hyundai Ioniq 5 / 6, BMW i4, Xpeng G6 for example come to mind.
Bonus: they’re on an 800V platform so loading from 10% - 80% is like 14 minutes compared to ~25 minutes for a model 3
Kia, Hyundai, Volvo, Polestar, Porsche all have EVs that match or even beat Tesla’s offering outside of Full Self Driving and sentry mode. I recently saw a youtube video of a Chinese EV that navigated Amsterdam on it’s own. https://youtu.be/egs_P0bO2AE So yeah Tesla won’t have the monopoly on full self driving for long.
You didn’t specify the model we should compare. But model y is beaten by multiple German and Chinese models like cla, glb, ix3, xpeng g6 and smart #5 just to name a few.
To add what I mean with beat is faster charging, HUD, better drive train etc.
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That is not quite true though. While they indeed still make (2) good car models there are alternatives on the market that can rival them (eg Kia EV4 or Renault Scenic E-tech 89kWh) and those alternatives can do so while actually having real buttons, that you don’t have to take off the eyes from the road just because you want to adjust the A/C or whatever. If you really wanted to leave Tesla, you could. That said, I don’t see the point in selling a perfectly good car in working condition for such reasons. What difference does it make if someone else is driving it and if no one is driving it it is a waste of resources.
The lack of real buttons is hardly the problem with those vehicles. Maybe for some/many people but I find that argument excessively nit-picky. You can adjust temperature perfectly fine in a Tesla without looking. Not that I normally need to touch it at all.
I bought my Tesla in 2022. After 4 years with it, the lack of real buttons and burying controls under touchscreen menus is the primary reason why I’ll never buy another Tesla. When I do replace my Tesla it will be with another EV, but not a Tesla EV.
It seems Chinese vendours are almost as bad as Tesla in this regard. However, European (maybe also South Koreans, I don’t know) largely coming back to physical controls for key features (and also real haptic buttons, not cheapo-touch buttons) though.
That argument carries enough weight that EURONCAP safety rating requires physical buttons for key features:
"Under the Safe Driving section of Euro NCAP’s safety rating, the key driving controls – indicators, windscreen wipers and washer, hazard warning lights, horn and eCall emergency button – should be operated by a direct physical input rather than hidden within a menu on a touchscreen. "
https://www.euroncap.com/press-media/buttons-are-back-for-basic-functions-euro-ncap-confirms-in-testing/
The “it doesn’t effect me” crowd is of the same kind that says, that controlling a phone during driving, doesn’t effect them or that they can drive just as safe after non-excessive alcohol consumption.
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When’s the last time you looked? Hyundai Ioniq 5 / 6, BMW i4, Xpeng G6 for example come to mind. Bonus: they’re on an 800V platform so loading from 10% - 80% is like 14 minutes compared to ~25 minutes for a model 3
Zeekr 7X also
Also, the Renault Scenic E-tech 89 kWh has a comparable range for example, so does the Kia EV4. Prices are comparable too.
Kia, Hyundai, Volvo, Polestar, Porsche all have EVs that match or even beat Tesla’s offering outside of Full Self Driving and sentry mode. I recently saw a youtube video of a Chinese EV that navigated Amsterdam on it’s own. https://youtu.be/egs_P0bO2AE So yeah Tesla won’t have the monopoly on full self driving for long.
Renault has better EVs in every aspect.
not even renault says that
Citation needed. What makes it the best EV for you? I know several models I’d prefer over model y or 3.
Which ones? I’d love alternatives!
You didn’t specify the model we should compare. But model y is beaten by multiple German and Chinese models like cla, glb, ix3, xpeng g6 and smart #5 just to name a few.
To add what I mean with beat is faster charging, HUD, better drive train etc.
So what? Most people aren’t driving a Ferrari either. Just get a normal car instead.
I have a normal car. But what if I want electric? What should I get?
Where in the world are you, what sort of car size/shape are you looking for? How often do you drive more than 200km a day?
Have you never before bought a car? Go to three car dealers and look at what they offer. Take one that fits your needs.