• Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
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    2 months ago

    Your source refutes your bullshit “Western pressure” argument, Russian pressure was to literally invade and try to use Ukrainian territory to leverage against Ukraine.

    Quote needed :)
    I’ve said that the west encouraged Zelensky to fight, and the part you’ve linked doesn’t refute it.

    if they just stop fighting

    “They” can fight all they want, till the last person standing if they want. They are forcing other people to fight for them though.

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              2 months ago

              They" can fight all they want, till the last person standing if they want. They are forcing other people to fight for them though.

              Even your own sources say they aren’t being forced to fight, they get fined, imprisoned or renounce and seek asylum.

              Your solutions are that of an especially dumb child that thinks every flight ends like a goddamn pokemon battle. Ain’t no nurse joy out here boss, just dead children.

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                Even your own sources say they aren’t being forced to fight, they get fined, imprisoned or renounce and seek asylum.

                Oh right, because “fight or you will go to prison (where you possibly will be tortured)” is not being forced to fight… What kind of fucked up logic is that…

                As for renouncing citizenship and seeking asylum - please send me an article that describes how an average Joe can do it. It’s not possible.

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                  2 months ago

                  Hold on now, your claim was that they’re getting grabbed off the street and forced to fight. You offered sources, none of which say in any way that people are being grabbed off the street and forced to fight.

                  https://www.unhcr.org/ua/en/refugees-asylum-seekers

                  There’s about a half dozen resources for it and aside from that your bullshit fleeing story only proves that leaving the country is possible. Russian appologism isn’t a good luck pimpin.

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                    Hold on now, your claim was that they’re getting grabbed off the street and forced to fight. You offered sources, none of which say in any way that people are being grabbed off the street and forced to fight.

                    My sources literally show people on the streets being kidnapped and forcefully put into vans… Did you open any of the articles I linked?..

                    https://www.unhcr.org/ua/en/refugees-asylum-seekers

                    As I already told you (and linked sources), it’s impossible for an average Joe to renounce citizenship.

                    your bullshit fleeing story only proves that leaving the country is possible.

                    I left before the war started.

                    My family member left through the occupied territories, he had to lie to authorities that he had a reason to go there. So in the eyes of government he left the country illegally. Just like all the other people who leave through occupied territories or rivers/mountains. Or through giving bribes.