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    Smartphone buyers care more about that thing that they’ve been begging for, for years? You don’t say… And mobile phone manufacturers are again and still going to ignore what people actually want in favor of expensive and non functional vaporware, like they always do?

    You don’t say!

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    2010: We want bigger batteries, they give us colorful phones

    2015 We want bigger batteries, they give us 1mm thinner phones

    2020 We want bigger batteries, they give us 5 cameras

    2025 We want bigger batteries, they give us AI

    Phones are a great example of the utter failure of capitalism to address what people actually need and want.

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      They also keep taking away features, like removable storage (microSD) and headphone jacks. There’s a few phones that have them, but it gets more difficult to find them as time goes on.

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      Steve Jobs proved that consumers don’t actually know what they want until you tell them. And it’s the manufacturers job to tell them what they want and deliver it.

      Since Apple doesn’t want a bigger battery that means no one gets a bigger battery.

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      I would like colourful phones back though, they were so much more fun compared to the sea of black/white/grey + ONE option in the blue-purple spectrum we have today.

      Can we get that AND bigger batteries?..bigger colourful batteries even?

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        And cameras! Don’t replace 12mp 2x telephotos with 48mp 1x digital zoom cameras pls

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      @AbsoluteChicagoDog @Alphane_Moon nobody has been asking for bigger batteries, people already cry about the weight as is. Apple switched to using a titanium frame just to drop a few grams of weight because people were crying about the weight. So, no, people haven’t been asking for bigger batteries, they have been asking for devices that last the day and then some, which we currently have. You also have the ability to recharge your battery to full in about a half 1 🧵

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    yeah but you can’t set inflate your stock value based on hype about battery life.

    people forget that these features aren’t for users. it’s for idiots who invest in ridiculous shit hoping it to be the next big thing.

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    They’re pushing AI so hard but most people just see it as a gimmicky thing. The only people who care are the investors.

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      No. Strictly and technically speaking, LLMs absolutely fall under the category of AI. You’re thinking of AGI, which is a subset of AI, and which LLMs will be a necessary but insufficient component of.

      I’m an AI Engineer; I’ve taken to, in my circles, calling AI “Algorithmic Intelligence” rather than “Artificial Intelligence.” It’s far more fitting term for what is happening. But until the Yanns and Ngs and Hintons of the field start calling it that, we’re stuck with it.

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      If you don’t think this counts as AI, can you give us an example of some function or behavior that you would consider AI?

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        Reasoning, sentience, and the ability, over time, to improve. There’s more, but that’s the top three.

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    Oh wow shocking, people actually cared more about usability than trashy feature? That’s unheard of

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      Like you know, you can setup a file share to back up files. You can back up your phone and get a new one easily. If you lost a phone you can bring it back. Your files organized the way you want and not some things here and done things there like the apps want.

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    How about making a phone that’s a whole millimeter thicker just to make the glass thick and strong enough that it won’t break if you drop it?

    Great idea! Unless of course the replacement of parts and broken phones is a core part of the business model.

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      There are a few ruggedized phones out there. I bought some cheap Oukitel phones to use as an order pad in restaurant I used to run, because I was fed up with two waitresses dropping and breaking pads. When I sold the business, I kept one. I use it mainly in my boat, as GPS, plotter, speedometer, weather…

      The thing drops, gets wet, handled without care.

      These phones exist. They are not top performance dogs, but can be quite decent. Why arent they in the front line? Because demand

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      Rubbish. If my phone isn’t so thin that it can double as a knife, it’s not worth buying.

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      Even if it were thicker I’d still slap on a sacrificial glass screen protector atop it. I’ve dropped my phone only a handful of times, and so far have only ever broken the protector.

      Just slap a shield on it, there’s your added thickness and better drop resistance all in one!

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    “The only thing we bothered changing in the new model is we added a robot that hoovers even more of your data and then lies to you confidently!”

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    Literally just give us phones that can do what they could do 10 years ago, with modern batteries.

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          I want it to be like the glory days of the Note 8/9. You want a FP reader? Its on the back and it works really well! You want Facial recognition? How about iris scans as well! Notification LED, aux jack, and a Pen built right in! Not enough storage, pop in a MicroSD. Only thing that was missing was easily swapped batteries! It all went downhill from here imo

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        You know, almost every phone still has an ir blaster… It’s just not made Available to you.

        (Auto focusing in cameras is largely done via an ir blaster and corrisponding receiver)

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      My ideal would basically be a modern version of the lg v20 - give me that removable battery, headphone jack, microsd slot, etc and just give me the current gen on chipset, screen, camera, etc.

      No AI, no preloaded nonsense I can’t get rid of, I don’t care that it could be 0.000004mm thinner without the jack.

      Its never been about what the consumer wants, its about driving “features” that will make more profits.

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      You know what would be good? Headphone jack, and great batteries yes, but how about something easily self repairable? Or shit replaceable batteries would be nice too.

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    I still would take an extra mm for more battery life. At this point it’s no difference if it’s a bit thinner.

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    It feels like yesterday some guy was arguing against me here on Lemmy about my personal choice of wanting a longer battery life.

    WELL LOOK AT ME NOW BRO

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      No bro, it’s totally better to get 5-6 hours of battery and AI cause like it’s so incredible bro

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        Battery usage:

        • 86%
        • 3 days ago (last charge)
        • 18 days left

        That’s what I currently have with close to no usage. With usage it’s around 10 days in total. When using GPS it depends.

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                There’s a lot of rebrands of these phones. If you get a rugged phone from an unknown brand it’s very possible it’s an Oukitel rebrand.

                I’ve had a few but I mostly take one that doesn’t look too rugged. Enjoyed every one of them. They are also pretty easy to repair. (If you are able to remove the screen)