I talked with a friend of mine from the City, who pointed out that Andrew Cuomo’s publicly announced his interest in the position, and apparently polled well (moreso than other options on the poll, at least).
Can’t say I’m keen on Cuomo running in a special election and winning. New York’s seen enough of him and his.
I have many issues with Pelosi but she seems to have been the only Democrat with any major influence over the party in recent memory who was willing to use the checks at her disposal against blatant corruption. The rest of the Democratic party leadership are proving to be utterly useless and incompetent.
Yeah, I totally agree with you. Like I said, I have issues with her and I don’t want her back. But she’s also the only example of a leading Democrat in recent memory who’s exercised power to stand up to Trump in any meaningful way. She impeached him twice and withheld a SotU address until he relented in a government shutdown. My point is, why are the other Dems so fucking spineless at a time we need action the more than ever?
Yes, because if there’s anything the last 10 years of politics has taught us is that the Democrats need to care more about precedent than holding elected officials accountable
The rule of law is important, that’s the entire point. It’s being flouted openly in all corners or our government. I can support a just government, but we do not have one, and we do not stand a chance of instating one without removing the openly corrupt one that we have in place. Simple as that.
We don’t want to make it acceptable for a governor to remove a mayor because they feel like it.
“Because they feel like it?” Are you unaware of the charges against him or something? This isn’t based on feelings it’s based on the crimes he’s committed while in office that he and Trump are trying to sweep under the rug.
That’s where we disagree. If there’s plenty of evidence then we can’t always wait on our justice system where the rich and powerful can use their resources to stall almost indefinitely. In this case, he will likely serve the remainder of his term without any repercussions.
Is the law being more closely followed by letting him remain in office despite taking bribes? I suppose in your opinion Trump is perfectly fine to do whatever he wants now that the “rule of law” says that he can.
A letter to Hochul stating “I didn’t do it, you didn’t see me do it, you can’t prove it if I did do it, and no way was my deal with Trump a quid pro quo” qualifies as an opportunity to defend himself, as well.
I didn’t miss a damn thing. The governor has a process available to dismiss him. That /\ is the process. Therefore, removing the mayor would not be extra judicial.
Who, whom? Russian: кто кого?, kto kogo?; Russian pronunciation: [kto.kɐˈvo] is a Bolshevik principle or slogan which was formulated by Vladimir Lenin in 1921.
Once again, Democrats. Always too little, too late. Never willing to meet the moment. Never able to read the room. No fight, no drive, no spine.
I talked with a friend of mine from the City, who pointed out that Andrew Cuomo’s publicly announced his interest in the position, and apparently polled well (moreso than other options on the poll, at least).
Can’t say I’m keen on Cuomo running in a special election and winning. New York’s seen enough of him and his.
Word on yet more of Cuomo, but get this compromised fuckhead Adams right the fuck outta here.
More like too nothing.
I have many issues with Pelosi but she seems to have been the only Democrat with any major influence over the party in recent memory who was willing to use the checks at her disposal against blatant corruption. The rest of the Democratic party leadership are proving to be utterly useless and incompetent.
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Yeah, I totally agree with you. Like I said, I have issues with her and I don’t want her back. But she’s also the only example of a leading Democrat in recent memory who’s exercised power to stand up to Trump in any meaningful way. She impeached him twice and withheld a SotU address until he relented in a government shutdown. My point is, why are the other Dems so fucking spineless at a time we need action the more than ever?
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Yes, because if there’s anything the last 10 years of politics has taught us is that the Democrats need to care more about precedent than holding elected officials accountable
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It is not only acceptable but is required when the judicial system is compromised how it is.
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The rule of law is important, that’s the entire point. It’s being flouted openly in all corners or our government. I can support a just government, but we do not have one, and we do not stand a chance of instating one without removing the openly corrupt one that we have in place. Simple as that.
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“Because they feel like it?” Are you unaware of the charges against him or something? This isn’t based on feelings it’s based on the crimes he’s committed while in office that he and Trump are trying to sweep under the rug.
This whole fucking story is about a law on record. They’re not talking about just taking Adams out back for a summary execution.
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“They go low, we go high” has been so extremely useful in the last 10 years or so.
Yes? Don’t you think Trump should have been removed from office in his first term?
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That’s where we disagree. If there’s plenty of evidence then we can’t always wait on our justice system where the rich and powerful can use their resources to stall almost indefinitely. In this case, he will likely serve the remainder of his term without any repercussions.
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Can you quote the specific law you feel is being ignored?
Is the law being more closely followed by letting him remain in office despite taking bribes? I suppose in your opinion Trump is perfectly fine to do whatever he wants now that the “rule of law” says that he can.
If you were being investigated by the FBI for corruption and openly pulled a quid pro quo with a political figure, would you still have a job?
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Not according to NY law, as there is no mention of a trial in the relevant statute.
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A letter to Hochul stating “I didn’t do it, you didn’t see me do it, you can’t prove it if I did do it, and no way was my deal with Trump a quid pro quo” qualifies as an opportunity to defend himself, as well.
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Such a removal would not be extra judicial: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PBO/33
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I didn’t miss a damn thing. The governor has a process available to dismiss him. That /\ is the process. Therefore, removing the mayor would not be extra judicial.
Quit moving the goal posts.
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I’m sorry, I must be blind. Please point out the word “trial” in that section of the New York State Constitution.
All I see is “… after giving to such officer a copy of the charges against him and an opportunity to be heard in his defense.”
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Being removed from office is not “punishment.”
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His elected position is not a possession. Taking it away is not punishment.
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That mayor is causing a crisis because he doesn’t want to be convicted of a crime he has already been accused of
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And what happens if those other governors remove mayors for political reasons anyway?
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Precedent is a tool of the weak. In government, law and enforcement is what matters.
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it’s just more кто кого shit
. . . what’s that?
Edit: no, seriously, I don’t know what that is.
Oh. Uh, cool.