I was reading about China and fell down a Falun Gong rabbit hole, where I saw
Jennifer is a multi-talented individual who creates videos, writes stories, and offers insightful commentaries on current affairs and personal experiences. Over the past two decades, she has dedicated herself to exposing the lies and crimes of the Chinese Communist Party, as well as shedding light on the injustices faced by Falun Gong practitioners and other persecuted groups. Her articles have received numerous accolades in international essay competitions and have been published by prestigious outlets like The Diplomat as feature stories.
which says that some random Chinese lady now lives in Australia and gets paid to talk shit about her old government, and I thought
I can do that!
Then if you look at the founder of Falun Gong (who is just a run of the mill insane person (i) ), he works at the
global headquarters in Dragon Springs, a 173-hectare (427-acre) compound in Deerpark, New York, United States, near the residence of Li.
and I thought
I can do that!
I know most of the propagandists and compradors are NED or CIA funded and maintained, but like, did they have to send an application? How did they get that job? I’m asking because I talk shit about the fascist USA gov since 2002 AND I have 2 jobs, so I was thinking it would be better to streamline the whole process.
I might be projecting here, as I think the USA / White Empire is the only true imperial power on the planet, but if I’m not then tropical climate preferred- Cuba/Vietnam, thank you.
Among them, Li has railed against what he called the wickedness of homosexuality, feminism and popular music while holding that he is a god-like figure who can levitate and walk through walls.
Li has also taught that sickness is a symptom of evil that can only be truly cured with meditation and devotion, and that aliens from undiscovered dimensions have invaded the minds and bodies of humans, bringing corruption and inventions such as computers and airplanes.
You do not want an FLG job. Listen to the True Anon series of the guy who wrote for the Epoch Times: https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/falun-gong-1 It’s a four-part series. You won’t be making good money.
I think they’re looking for the anti-American version of FLG, where you just get to live in the woods and make up stories about the US and get paid for it.
Yea I’m really not sure how they came away from that body of text thinking I want to be involved with Falun Gong…
You do not want an FLG job.
This is 100% accurate though so it’s a wash.
Ah. Sorry I originally read your post as though you wanted to get in on the NED grift, and FLG was just an example.
Ah k. I mean if OP had asked about editorial or copywriting jobs with nominally anti-imperialist publications then for sure kind of stuff exists. I’ve heard of foreigners getting gigs with CGTN and other CCTV channels (including a former flatmate but they still held their Chinese passport).
Propaganda isn’t just ‘lies about the adversary’ so traditional routes for journalism are probably more viable to get a job related to one’s skills and interests.
Explicit influence campaigns/coordination would most likely be kept state-side within the intelligence organs so out-of-reach to most non-nationals.
(Sorry for writing this whole thing out to you and not to OP 😅)
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XD omg that last line lmao. That is my new go-to catch-all.
“Hey fort_burp, where’s the ketchup?”
“If you want ketchup it’s better to strive for joining an international communist organization, sure your pay is going to be shit and you’ll survive on eating acorns, but you can rest peacefully.”
"Hey fort_burp, wanna go swimming?
“If you wanna go swimming it’s better to strive for joining an international communist organization, sure your pay is going to be shit and you’ll survive on eating acorns, but you can rest peacefully.”
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99% sure that all those kinds of jobs are a make-work program to keep the failsons and fail daughters of empire employed.
Right? I feel like half the magic is that they don’t know they’re propagandists. It plays straight to the vindication and validation heart strings so why would they ask any questions?
I think the way to do this is to start some kind of “advocacy” foundation for defectors and then publish testimony from “them” and other “sources” “anonymously”.
It’d be kinda neat if leftists were to waste Western state propaganda budgets by doing this. And giving them zero new theories to run wild with, just repeat the same tired bovine excrement that even some of the libs are starting to realise is probably fake.
If you’re in a grifty enough marketing agency, they’ll find you.
Terrible story from my libbest of days:
I went to the navy recruitment office when I was in high school because 9/11 and patriotism and all that, but I was only half serious because I had an awful lot of wtf moments about that day. Anyway, I still went down, talked to two guys at the office, they had me take some test, and when I finished they started telling me all the possible things I could be doing for the navy. From being nuclear engineer to being a cryptographer to ultimately “You could be the guy that writes the news. You know, the things you see on CNN and NBC. You could be the guy that writes what they all say!” which was mind-blowing to me at that time. It did not compute how someone in the navy could possibly be responsible for what was being said on the state media by the flapping heads.
Made a fuckton more sense later on but at that time it sounded so absolutely ethereal that I ended up not signing up and just went to college instead, where they continued to call me on my dorm phone, the number of which I never did know, asking me to quit college and enlist in the navy.
I would also like to know this. I’m a decent writer who’s read a lot of lib nonsense and knows how propaganda articles generally go, there’s not a lot of work out there I could consistently do, but writing this nonsense… yeah, any fool could do that, including me, and people apparently get paid to do it!
If you write about Korea you can just say literally anything, no one will ever call you out. Yeah I escaped the Evil Camp run by General Evil McCrimes, every day he made us write down the worst crimes we could think of and then he picked the worst one and did it to everyone who didn’t suggest it.
Every Westerner: omg that’s so terrible we have to invade and stop General Evil McCrimes immediately!!!
But to do that, you have to plausibly be a defector, need the right appearance for that, lol.
But yeah, those particular people are pretty obviously just being paid to lie with confidence.
Zenz made up a ton of shit and he doesn’t even speak Chinese. From what I recall they were just contacting academics and trying to see if they could get them to do a propaganda job. Look how they had to get an anthropologist (Zenz) to do it so it’s clear that all Chinese studies professors declined. I saw on the grayzone (forgot if website or video) a while back that UK professors were punished for not accepting propaganda jobs.
Zenz has a tweet where he said he couldn’t find any dirt on China but then the US offered more money and it’s implied he just made shit up
Isn’t that just the most capitalist thing ever!? “I couldn’t find anything bad to say about this foreign country that’s true. But I was being paid to come up with something, so I made something up.”
Well, you could try getting arrested in the DPRK. There is at least one case where a tourist blatantly broke DPRK law and wrote their own little Gulag Archipelago about the ~year or two they spent in jail before their release was negotiated. I believe it was a pastor or someone who was trying to do religious agitation (there’ve been a couple of those)
Wouldn’t be the first time someone’s asked me or a close friend of mine to get ourselves arrested for a job… not that any of us have ever agreed to do so.
trying to do religious agitation
Ah, OK, so in other words, was trying to convince others of his ideas. And that got him thrown in jail. Sounds like a lovely country…
Missionaries should be banned from every country. I’m happy to criticize the DPRK where it’s called for (I regularly am quite vocal about certain criticisms), but this is very clearly not one of those times.
No one put a gun to the heads of any of those fuckers and made them go pose as tourists to try to get converts, that’s something they chose to do, and chose to do in a country where they knew it was illegal. Why should the takeaway be that the DPRK is in the wrong here? Because we should expect them to turn a blind eye to the way that manufacturing Christian zealots has been used by the west as a cynical social wedge in the developing world for however long?
What were the ideas?
Go ahead, lib. Enlighten us. You’re on the right side of history, after all.
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any fool could do that, including me
lmao yea exactly, and with the US it’s so easy, you just write what actually happened and it’s like perfect propaganda
That’s the neat thing about anti imperialist propaganda, you don’t have to make up ridiculous nonsense, you can just… report the fucking news with a cynical tone. And it’ll be accurate if slightly sensationalist or exaggerated today, and bang on or understated decades from now. Most of the old Soviet posters criticizing America are still pretty poignant today…
Lmao you are so right. Remember less than 2 months ago the news about a Black man found hanging on a tree branch at a golf course?
gruesome imagery / death (drawn still image)
Yep. Americans who talk of “liberty” and “freedom”, and the church men who screamed about the Godless Commies and turned the Cold War into a Crusade to get butts in pews every Sunday, were a bunch of hypocrites during the Cold War and they’re still hypocrites today.
Go for it, prove to us that it’s actually all propaganda!
You’re here defending a literal cult who claim the Chinese government harvests their organs because their religion gives them the healthiest, juiciest and bestest organs from the alignment of their chakras.
I am not exaggerating. That is a fair telling of the entire organ harvesting shit this cult pushes. Don’t believe me? Here’s a dipshit liberal video saying the same thing for dipshit liberals.
The Australian ABC even called it a cult. Like an in depth article about the account of someone who got out of the cult.. Her mother and her dance teacher were/still are devout members and bullied the 13 year old daughter into an eating disorder because she wanted her to be skinny enough to join the anti-China dance troupe known as Shen Yun.
I’m pretty sure the only people that take FLG seriously are it’s members and Americans.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Are you really going to bat for Falun Gong?
I’m sure you hate Trump, so what if I told you Falun Gong has a massive media empire, including the supposed newspaper Epoch Times, that they use to push far-right pro-Trump propaganda?
You literally don’t even know the definition of the word propaganda, why do you think your opinions have merit?
I have money on people like you never waking up to reality
Easiest bet of my life
If you want to be anti-China fine (I guess), but you definitely shouldn’t be pro-Falun Gong. They are unhinged far right cultists.
“No investigation, no right to speak”
