cause a motor is more expensive than a sensor.
NOW STOP RESISTING AND DO WHAT THE DEVICE SAYS OR HE CALLS THE VACUUM THAT WILL WIP YA ASS.
is it not possible to use of those mechanical handles they put on top of regular doors in public places?
Everyone’s missing the real issue. Springs, motors, or pneumatics don’t matter if there’s something in the way preventing it from closing. A cheap fridge on an uneven floor will close the door itself if there’s nothing in the way, but if the jug of milk is hanging off the edge of the shelf with no room behind it, the door isn’t closing without something getting damaged.
You don’t need a motor though, there’s a lever thing you put on doors to make them close, they already put them in fridges.
The true reason is that a motor or hinge or even just s thing that makes noise when the fridge is left open too long (mine has that) or whatever doesn’t collect your personal data
Ding ding ding!
“Download the Smart Fridge app to utilize our Open Door Alert service.”
App Store: Data linked to you - ALL
Why keep the milk fresh when you can stick a tracker up the cows ass for a huge profit?
To be fair, the last time I shoved a sensor up a cows ass my gains were minimal.
Problem: I barely check my phone when I’m home. If I’m home, I’m usually on my laptop or watching my TV.
Fortunately, my fridge doesn’t have this problem. Instead, it beeps very loudly whenever the door is open for too long.
Well… One would assume the beep is still a thing, is just an extra so if you are not near it you also get a notification.
The beeper thing costs pennies… so not exactly a cost cutting thing… But you never know… and without knowing the model etc difficult to check.
can’t just beep to alert nearby people, they need access to that 𝓊𝓈𝑒𝓇 𝒹𝒶𝓉𝒶
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It does do that, too. It’ll only send notifications to your phone if you have it added on SmartThings
Frankly I don’t even want that. I hate when my fridge starts beeping at me because I have it open while I am putting away groceries or cleaning it.
I mean, they could take the app dev resources and put them towards a better built-in solution; like maybe you could open it up wide enough to click/lock the door into place at a very wide angle and that would disable the beeper, or a button that disables it temporarily either based on time or til the next button press. But yeah, I get how a default dumb beeper is more annoying than it helps
Commercial fridges already have this. They have a wedge under the hinge with a little shallow notch at the end. The weight of the door pushes the hinge on the wedge and it slowly closes the door when you’re not actively holding it open. The notch is so that it will hold open and is paired with a kick plate so you can give a little boot as you’re walking away to get it back on its closing game.
Look at public restroom stall doors for an example of what I’m talking about.
just put a fucking spring on the fucking door (like a weak one)
My fridge is ever so slightly tilted. I can throw the door open, grab all I need, and it will close after me just on time.
Life is good.This is the way. No “smart” fridges needed
We added some small wood pieces under the front feet to do this. Solved a lot of marriage problems with this one simple trick that actually works. Number 2 will shock you.
Simple solutions can’t be sold at huge margins.
Retrofuturism: Clever houses would do everything for you, just get back and relax. Your personal assistant would get you whiskey with ice and put some jazzy vinyl for a good evening.
Actual future: You did what to me stupid human? BTW, there are 99+ notifications from our furniture and our partners. Oh, and your toilet paper subscription is due tommorow, don’t think you’d get away with unscrewing the lock this time, I’d watch the shit of you!
$50 bucks says they didn’t even think of that.
Samsung Appliances don’t have the best track record for being reliable… Something tells me if they did add something like that, within the first year it’d either break down OR work too well and result in a number of loss of limb lawsuits against the company.
That’s a hilarious thought. The good ol scientists at Samsung, we could just use gravity and design the front to lift up a little, or we could add ridiculously machinery with the power to remove a limb. But they all agree gravity doesn’t tick the box of new technology, therefore they have to go with the latter option.
There’s usually little leveling feet that you can turn to adjust, crank them up a little higher in the front and the door closes itself.
Not cloud-y enough.
Easy fix just have an options menu in the cloud that you need access to to enable it. Charge for the account to login lol. I’m going to start my own fridge company now
Yeah, wtf. How do they get your data then?
Id reckon it’s a slow play to make connecting devices more normalised and therefore make it easier to take your data. It may sound like an unrealistic dystopian future but I reckon we’re gonna get alot more dystopic before we become utopic.
Edit: the app u connect through also probably spies on you but I’d reckon the other prediction is true too just not as sure sbt that onr
Not cloud subscription enough
Can we please stop connecting everything together?
Yes, BUT I kinda want to get automated statistical analysis of my shits sent to my phone. I am talking excel sheet with graphs n stuff here.
If we don’t network everything how will we ensure the Cylons don’t have complete control over everything?
it’s a process that sadly won’t be stopping anytime soon
after home appliances it’s time for our bodies
Wait until they put cameras, microphones, location sensors and sim cards to a car and report everything to the corporation. Oh wait…
I don’t hate this, but I also don’t like it.
Not because it’s a bad idea, or it should have been better, but because, to me, it seems like any obvious idea about how to make smart things do stuff that’s actually practical like this is usually behind some walled garden, and different walled gardens don’t really work with other walled gardens.
Like with having smart things (the Samsung product line) and Google home, and Philips hue smart bulbs, you now have three things all working “together” … “In the cloud”. And you’re entirely limited to whatever those cloud services and/or manufacturers want you to be able to do with them…
What if I want my smart speaker to play “Ice ice, baby” whenever I leave the freezer open, and have the lights go blue and blink or something? It’s two back to back horribly complicated processes to get SmartThings to talk to the “works with Google” system, same with hue, then a cludge of weird commands that work today, but next week might entirely break, all dependent on whether anything is still talking to eachother, and even if I can do all that, there’s no guarantee that I can use “freezer door left open for x minutes” as a trigger for the activity… Additionally, I need to find a way to source the song on my Google assistant, so now I need to tie in Spotify or YouTube music, or something to my “works with Google” crap… It’s just a lot of work to even get to the point where you can see what options you have.
This is a fairly simple example, but still… And then I have to ask, why the hell does it need to bounce around the “cloud” so much just to perform an action on the lights in my house, for the alert from the fridge that’s also in my house?
Then I also have to wonder, how many fracking devices do they expect me to put on my wifi, and how much more do I need to spend so that I don’t need to reboot my wifi doesn’t every other day, otherwise it drops my “smart” home things?
I can’t drink the Samsung Kool aid exclusively, they don’t make lights or smart speakers, I can’t do the same with Google, they don’t make lights or fridges, and I certainly can’t with Phillips. So I’m stuck with some internet reliant thing to do the same job as a $1 magnetic sensor, a cheap speaker, and a cannibalized novelty get well soon card that plays music when you open it… I can add blue lights that react to sound for a few dollars more and get the same effect, and not have to shell out thousands of dollars on a fancy fridge, fancy lights, hours of my frustration, and a fancy wifi system to make it all go.
… To be fair, I’ve done all those things, I don’t have a smart fridge, but I use home assistant, and this gives me an idea. I just need to buy one of those door/window open sensors, and I can get it done.
To clarify, I started in “smart” home stuff with some hue bulbs, partly to see what all the fuss was about, then the Mrs, while away from the hue system, complained that she had to get up from bed to turn off the lights one night and I knew I was done for. Now I have nearly 100 smart home devices, and I still have those hue bulbs. I’m waiting for them to die so I can buy smart bulbs that don’t require the cloud, which I’ve already replaced most of the other lights in my home with. I’ve added smart light switches, so I can trigger scenes and automations from the wall (and keep the power to the smart lights from being turned off), and many many sensors (mostly temp/humidity/air quality)… Everything I’ve installed recently (about 60 IoT things) have been locally controlled via zwave, directly to home assistant, so getting something like the above done, should only need a sensor to know if the freezer/fridge was not properly closed all the way.
Anyways. Prior to migrating to home assistant, I was doing the “works with Google” dance and it was not fun, and suddenly, anytime my internet went out, I lost control over half the stuff in my home. I hate how reliant we’ve become on the “cloud” to do simple stuff like turn on the lights. I’m not a fan. Thus, home assistant. I have, and will continue to seek out alternatives to stuff like SmartThings, that I can control and manage locally.
My final note is: being able to adjust the thermostat, and turn on the lights from the bed/couch/wherever, is the tits. Carry on.
and different walled gardens don’t really work with other walled gardens
This is why I will only ever support open standards
You actually can have complete offline with Samsung Smart things and Hue, not that it’s not a PITA to set up.
I’ve heard of this with hue. From what I understand, you basically need to take the bulbs and connect them to another ZigBee hub, since they’re ZigBee under the hood.
But you have to do it using some pretty frustrating methods because they are programmed to only connect to their own hub.
IDK. Only my TV is “SmartThings” so, hopefully I can work on that. I’m not a fan of ZigBee since it shares a band with WiFi. I’d rather just get rid of them, but I have a hard time justifying the cost of replacing that many smart bulbs with basically the same thing because my brain gives me the happy chemicals when everything is organized and works the same way.
Also, the Mrs uses the hue app and I’d have to get her over to home assistant instead, it’s a whole thing. Basically, I don’t have very good reasons to change it, and I don’t have good reasons not to, so I’m at a bit of an impasse.
I think the hue box is acting as a zigbee hub tbh, but it’s been a while since I set it up.
First genuine Too Long/ Didn’t Read for me in a long time.
I also like how you can make your whole house change color with the lights during the day. Blue and bright at noon, red and dim in the evening.
Or how the lights dim when I turn on the TV. Or how the curtains can be opened by just yelling open the curtains. Node Red is super nice with Home Assistant, if you want to do something more complex with the automation.
Why are your lights on during the day?
Ummm to see something? It’s winter and dark…
Day raves duh
Have you looked into home assistant? There is a pretty solid and mature community around you managing all these different smart systems yourself.
That said, in not sure this is relevant, I’m too sleepy to read all of what you wrote. Apologies
He talked about it towards the end
Just popping in as a former user to say Smartthings is fucking garbage. Use Home Assistant or any other self hosted solution. Don’t waste your effort with Smartthings.
