• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I love watching this strawman over and over.

    Of course Biden is better than Trump. He should still stop supporting genocide.

    • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.worldOP
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      6 months ago

      As far as I know, the Oval Office doesn’t have start/stop genocide button, or control inflation lever for that matter.

      If it’s not going to be Biden, then it will be someone else. Either a Republican or a Democrat.

      Even someone who earlier looked promising, eg Fetterman is a staunch Israel supporter.

      Because the problem is systematic. You can’t just uproot the US-Israel nexus that’s deeply entrenched in the US politics.

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        6 months ago

        the Oval Office doesn’t have start/stop genocide button

        True, but it DOES have the option to stop supplying bombs that they know for a fact are being used to commit that genocide.

        Your “either they can push a magic button or they’re doing all they can” dichotomy isn’t clever. It shows that you’re being either disingenuous, willfully ignorant or just extremely obtuse.

        Because the problem is systematic

        Yes, Israel is systematically wiping out the population of Gaza and the Biden White House is using the levers of the system to help them do it. That’s not an argument for not telling them to stop.

        You can’t just uproot the US-Israel nexus that’s deeply entrenched in the US politics

        You can, in fact. It worked with Apartheid South Africa, which the US also kept supporting way beyond the point that most other countries stopped, and it’ll work with THIS apartheid regime too.

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      6 months ago

      What is the strawman in this meme? When you talk to republicans they will point out the flaws of a democrat and act like that is equivalent to whatever their republican counterparts are doing. This is not a strawman.

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        6 months ago

        Wouldn’t that be single-issue voting that would ultimately favor the Orange Menace?

        I don’t understand why this keeps resurfacing on Lemmy like there’s a choice. Like, what’s the point of asking people this?

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          The point is to avoid addressing the reasonable concern. If you say you would not vote for Biden then the conversation becomes about your poor tactics rather than the current president aiding a genocide.

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        6 months ago

        Right here on lemmy. Try saying that Biden should stop supporting genocide here on lemmy a few times. You’ll get plenty of people acting like you’re both-sidesing for Trump.

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          6 months ago

          Only if you add in a splash of “so I’m not voting for him”.

          No one is shouting down people for just saying Biden should stop supporting genocide.

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            If you say “biden should stop supporting genocide” then you’ll get “but the other guy supports genocide even harder” to shut down any discussion. If you point out that it’s unacceptable that the only two options are genocide supporters, that’s definitely when you get the “you’re both sidesing!!” talking point in another attempt to shut down discussion.

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      6 months ago

      I thought you guys would “stop after the primary season.” I wonder if anyone called that out as bullshit.