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Say NO, to Pumpkin Spice Latte PSL

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    1261·
    5 months ago

    uses rallies to recruit

    Oh god no, turning protests into a productive, larger, organized movement! Don’t these tankies know that the point of protests is to show up, wave your clever sign, and just hope that spontaneously causes the downfall of the bourgeois state?

    • Johnny_Arson [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      56·
      5 months ago

      Yesterday I went to get cigarettes and cash for the bus after work. Guy at the register was struggling with a $10 bill in the counterfeit reader and grumbling about hating technology sometimes.

      Of course I could not help myself so I said, yeah ne too and asked him if he knew about the luddites.

      One thing leads to another and I basically ended up having the kind of talk we have here all the time.

      Quick Stop gas station kid if you’re on here yep, we hate the word authoritarianism too.

      TLDR the kids might be alright, he was way ahead of where I was at his age.

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    85·
    5 months ago

    This method of attacking PSL is the same method the CIA uses to attack foreign states. They’re building up a giant list to bomb people with “reasons x country is bad so you should support bombing it”, big enough so that it requires several hundred pages to refute. Gish gallop in propaganda form is their preferred method.

    Many people won’t even remember the claims, they’ll just remember “PSL bad” and that’s that.

    I’ll say a few things:

    1. Nobody knows where Tigray is. Useless point. Xinjiang is easily refutable at this point and most people are listening to it.
    2. Coverups and internal drama never happens in the democrats obviously.
    3. Only idiots will buy that a bunch of queer communists have ever supported fascists.
    4. Nobody knows who Roy Singham is, including me lmao.
    5. “De-mobilises protests” oh really? Which ones? Palestine? Anti-ICE? Nah.

    Come on feds this is some of your weakest ever work, it can be shut down in less text than exists on the propaganda, do better.

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      48·
      5 months ago

      Nobody knows who Roy Singham is, including me lmao.

      AFAIK the intended part of this bit is for people to google him, see he’s a pro-China billionaire who gave PSL and their front orgs $40m, and think that’s bad.

      • NinjaGinga [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        25·
        5 months ago

        When Lenin said the last capitalist would sell us the rope to hang them, I don’t think he envisioned this lmao. Maybe we can keep this one billionaire, as a treat

      • sewer_rat_420 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        18·
        5 months ago

        Isn’t a plurality of Americans pro China at this point. Libs that might fall for this don’t necessarily hate billionaires, they like Mark Cuban for instance. And most of them are saying “I trust China with my data more than the USA” when it comes to the TikTok sale.

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          26·
          5 months ago

          The target audience of this infographic is definitely the kind of radlib that is extremely proud of how “informed” they are about China’s authoritarianism and feels a sense of smug moral superiority over the other kind of lib/generally-left-wing people who feel that way about China.

    • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.mlM
      38·
      5 months ago

      Come on feds this is some of your weakest ever work, it can be shut down in less text than exists on the propaganda, do better.

      I actually watched this in action in a group chat I’m in (national chat so I know basically nobody in it).

      • new person expresses positive opinion of PSL re: protests

      • dude links red flags document (I actually checked this at the time and was like hell no I’m not clicking on a google document link)

      • Gets dogpiled by clique of people (like 4-5 in a big chat)

      • they start accusing the new person of trolling every time they chime in to any conversation

      • eventually gets kicked for refusing to take them seriously

      for being very concerned about “high control groups” they were being highly controlling

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        29·
        5 months ago

        This only works in chat groups if the owner of the chat group is anti-psl. If the owners of the group are not, then the members of the group are free to defend it with full energy and they get dogpiled.

        In the chats owned by someone who’s anti-PSL in the first place, this is much much harder.

        On top of that you have the situations where a chat owner is anti-tankie but does not consider PSL to be tankies because only bad people can be tankies and they’ve actually met good people involved with PSL or know of PSL organised events, this makes a sorta brainwormed soup mess but also benefits PSL.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      31·
      5 months ago

      Come on feds this is some of your weakest ever work, it can be shut down in less text than exists on the propaganda, do better.

      When was this made? Syria and Venezuela are basically out of date talking points especially since Assad and Maduro are not even in their respective countries anymore. There’s also a weird emphasis on Ethiopia/Tigray. You would think they would put Iran under the “authoritarian regime” instead of Ethiopia. No mention of Palestine, not even with a “PSL co-opts Palestinian protests” talking point.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      45·
      5 months ago

      I mean the CIA has certainly shown support for the TPLF in the past decade, so that filters down into domestic lib support. But you’re right in that it’s liberals claiming support for things they barely know about. Like I could probably get the average lib to announce support for the Tamil Tigers or the Shining Path if I say PSL has also been critical of them.